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The American Plainsmen Society / Re: California Rifle?
« Last post by Niederlander on Yesterday at 10:12:03 PM »
I'm learning more all the time!  One thing that seems obvious to me is the tremendous VARIETY of features on rifles of that period.  Not surprising when you consider they were all handmade, by probably hundreds of different 'smiths. 
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Tall Tales / Re: It's November, so stuff it.
« Last post by Delmonico on Yesterday at 08:53:47 PM »
I'd take some myself, dog likes it and if there is enough nobody has to get up and take the kid to school. ;D 
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Tall Tales / Re: It's November, so stuff it.
« Last post by Major E A Sterner on Yesterday at 08:10:51 PM »
Woke up this morning with a coating of the evil white stuff on the ground and still coming down. I blame the people that put up their Christmas decorations before December. >:(
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The American Plainsmen Society / Re: California Rifle?
« Last post by LongWalker on Yesterday at 07:57:05 PM »
There's an original California rifle for sale here:  https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/a-j-plate-plains-rifle-original.139469/  Rifle was made by Slotter & Co in Philadelphia, and is marked for A. J. Plate in San Francisco. 

Folks, after I bought the Leman I cross-posted here, it is someone else's turn! 
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The Barracks / Re: Civil War Relative
« Last post by TomcatPC on Yesterday at 07:17:05 PM »
Replying to an old topic...  Glad to see I'm not alone in having relatives that were in the conflict.

My Great Grand Dad (yes, Great...not Great Great, etc.) Served in the War Between the States.
Francis Albert Fry, 2nd Ohio Volunteer Cavalry, he was in towards the end, I don't have many details right now.
He was born in Farnham, Surrey, but I understand he moved to the East End of London where he lived prior to crossing the Atlantic.
He came to Canada and then the US.  Married a lady from Pelee Island, Ontario, who's family was also from England.
He had a twin Sister named Flora Victoria Fry (twins where named after Queen Victoria and Prince Albert).
He passed away in Bellevue, Ohio, US circa 1923.  Since I was born in 1970...no I never met him...  From what I understand, he was very proud of being English and that has been channeled through time to me.
Thanks
Mark
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USFA CSS / Re: China Camp - opinions sought
« Last post by Buckaroo Lou on Yesterday at 07:15:11 PM »
Very nice looking revolver. Terrific find.
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The Barracks / Re: Ran across this Springfield 03
« Last post by El Tio Loco on Yesterday at 06:20:23 PM »
Brophy has a picture of this rifle on page 85 in his book "The Springfield 1903 Rifle".  He captions the picture with "The United States Historical Institute caption of this photograph states: "Modified U.S. Rifle, Cal .30 M1903 designed for experiment by cavalry 3/27/40." However this author does not believe any serious consideration for military use was given this rifle."
Brophy also adds, "A carbine that General George Patton was supposed to have somthing to do with is a modified '03 rifle that was stocked in the "Bull Pup" manner used by some sportsmen who wanted a short rifle.  It is difficult for me to believe that any serious consideration of this rifle was made by cavalry or Ordnance personnel; the added cost and weight of the stock and attachment system, complicated latch-up of the trigger mechanism, and the exceptionally high front sight and obsolete Krag rear sight would all be negative factors.  etc, etc, ....

If I could ever figure out how to post pictures I would have attached it.
Ken
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The Barracks / Re: Krag 30 40 bullets
« Last post by cpt dan blodgett on Yesterday at 04:19:59 PM »
I get mine from montana bullet company 210 grainers
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: Reloading Setup
« Last post by Cliff Fendley on Yesterday at 03:56:17 PM »
I'm all blue press when it comes to loading volume.
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The Darksider's Den / Re: QUIET my Rosey Re . . . . .
« Last post by Dave T on Yesterday at 03:35:23 PM »
OK, I'll play.

My latest acquisition isn't intended for CAS or Living History.  It's purpose is for repelling boarders a bit further out than shotgun range.  Might also be a "truck gun" on occasion.  I'm putting it here because, despite it's intended purposes it is still a gun with Old West connections, at least in the imagination.

Most of the '92 Winchester copies, and for that matter the Marlin '94, have been victimized by the safety Nazis.  The all have some variety of added on and totally unnecessary hammer block safety.  For about a year I've been looking for an early enough version/copy that it doesn't have that crap but when I found one it was either more than I was willing to spend or I just didn't have the money before the auction ended.

This was complicated by my wanting a 38/357 version rather than the more popular 44s.  When I occasionally came across a non-safety 357 they wanted big bucks.

In searching for said example I settled on the long out of production Browning B-92.  Made by Miroku in Japan they are touted to be well crafted examples of JMB's original design.  Sadly a lot of other folks seem to have come to the same conclusion.  When a 357 B-92 showed up they were quickly scarfed up, no matter the price.  One, reported to be new in the box, was priced at $2495.  And it didn't last all that long.  YIKES!

Well, a couple weeks ago I stumbled across a B-92 in the desired caliber that showed a bit of wear.  This little carbine had been carried and shot a fair amount with dings on the polyurethane coated stock and some bluing wear on the high spots.  The bright side was the opening bid was about half of what the better examples were being offered for.

So I put in the starting bid (still a little more than I wanted to pay but I'm getting old and inflation is going to destroy my money's purchasing power anyway) and forgot about it, convinced I would be out bid and probably by $5. (lol)

Shock of shocks, I won the auction.  It took almost two weeks to get it here (both USPS and UPS seem to have lost their edge - snark!) but what a pleasant surprise when I picked it up at the FFL.  It was in much better shape than the photos made it seem.  The action is smooth and it seems to feed my 38-44 hand loads, at least out in the shop.
I have a couple thousand of those 38-44s (158@1125 from a 4" revolver) so the B-92 will have lots of food to digest in practice and plinking.  (smiley face goes here)

Dave

PS:  My apologies since this isn't going to be used as a black powder cartridge gun. Just wanted to give the maker of coffins something to read.
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