Quote from: Coffinmaker on July 04, 2025, 08:37:06 AMI'm still trying to figure out what you're actually trying to accomplish with "Cowboy" loads in your Rossi '92. 

Heavy bullets don't really fix "Stove Piping" in the '92.  Stove Piping is caused by the lifter bouncing the round around.  The faster you run the rifle, the more pronounced the bouncing becomes.  this is because the Cartridge Guides leave too much play in the cartridge lift.  As I mentioned before, the right side cartridge guide needs shimmed to just kiss the cartridge case which stabilizes the cartridge.

I've just been trying to get the rifle to feed period. Ejection is fine, it's failure-to-feeds that have always plagued me.

So far it seems like the vast majority of getting cartridges to feed in the R92 comes down to bullet shape and COAL. The bullet needs to be the right shape and in the right place to guide itself into the chamber.

Here is what the the rifle did when I first got it and tried to feed some 1.5ish" COAL 45 Colt with more rounded bullets through it:
https://imgur.com/a/9coZ1ml

And here is what 1.75"-long with the "correct" bullets do:
https://imgur.com/a/AVuCqtq

So far the 1.75" long cartridges have been flawless. Perhaps the heavy crimp is playing a role as well. 


I shot five of four different loads, all with the same bullets and loads, read with a Garmin Xero this weekend:


Powder:                 Avg FPS  Min    Max
4.5 grains Titegroup    695      661    730
5.0 grains Titegroup    761      745    777
5.5 grains Titegroup    860      828    894
6.0 grains Green Dot    906      865    932


I've been using the same bullets and cases in 1.6" long cartridges and feeding has been around 90%. The load I've been using is 6.0 grains of Green Dot, which at 1.6" gives me 1000 fps instead of 900.

So I'm thinking of just staying with Green Dot. It seemed to have a softer recoil than the Titegroup loads, even while providing a greater velocity. (The brass may have been cooler as well.)

The boxes arrived today USPS he has free shipping from Texas,
to the cont. US
I'm impressed, placed another order this afternoon for WW2 era 45 ACP

Edit: here is a photo of the boxes > note: he sends an instruction sheet to fold (they are shipped flat) not really needed, but heck efficient of him anyway. 

shown with a few of my 38 special reloads (I also load wadcutters, thanks to Dakota Ike's gift.)

The 45ACP boxes just ordered are the rare 1944-45 EVANSVILLE-CHRYSLER LATE WAR M1911 .45 ACP.
I have some original Frankfort (WW2) and Lake City but have not seen late war EC before. The cost is $2.50 each lot of three.

  By 1940 it was obvious that Frankford Arsenal would not be able to supply adequate quantities of ammunition should the U.S. get drawn into the war. The first contract to build up the stock of Cal. .45 Ball M1911 ammunition was given to Western Cartridge Company in October 1940 for 50 million rounds. This was followed by a contract to Remington Arms Company for 71 million rounds. An additional contract was also given to Winchester Repeating Arms Company, and these were all referred to as educational contracts. In 1941 plans were made to open additional production facilities, which then became a priority after December 7th, 1941. These plants, in addition to some production at Frankford Arsenal, would for the most part produce the .45 ACP M1911 Ball ammunition required for WWII.  By 1944, most Cal. .45 Ball production was drastically reduced due to lower demand, but by the end of the war over four billion rounds had been made. The 50 round carton was introduced in mid-1942, replacing the 20 round carton then in use.

Just found them on Facebook, of all places!  Thomas Frost is the company.  They look to have a lot a canteen stuff.

Unfortunately, those are steel or the earlier string.  They went to a brass chain secured by a brass wire around the neck for the 1872 Pattern.  My guess would be to prevent rust.

Hi Ned

Is this close enough for Guvmint work?

Cork n Chain

Not brass though.

Blockade runner version

No picture so who knows.

Schroeder

Gentlemen, Would any of you know where to find a reproduction of the brass wire and chain for the 1872 Pattern canteen?  I used to see them on e-Bay, but I can't find them now.

There will be a few changes to the 2026 Grand Muster.

One is that the Grand Muster will be moving to the 1st weekend of June. Originally when we moved it to June from July to try to get cooler weather, we chose the last weekend of June so as to stay as far away from the first weekend as possible and still be in June. This was because NCOWS was holding their National shoot the First weekend and we didn't want to compete with them since so many of our attendees were also NCOWS attendees. Now, with NCOWS moving away from the first weekend of June there is no reason for us NOT to move the Muster up to the first part of the month to try to get some cooler weather.

That brings up Change number 2. The Comstock Lodge will not be available to cater the banquet that Saturday night next year. I have begun a search for another caterer and have contacted one and they said they'd get back to me ASAP.

Another change that the move to the first weekend brings is that we won't be in competition with the alumni celebrations in the area, so it is possible that lodging MAY be easier to find. I understand that the Wildlife Inn in Taylor was already booked for the last weekend of June 2026. With the move to the 1st weekend, they MAY have rooms available.  The Comstock Lodge may have some rooms available too. You will just have to check

Hopefully, you have received this notice in time that it won't interfere with plans you have already made

"Harumph"
 

Dammit though, that's a fine looking rifle, be right at home in Kansas in 1872.

I never did get a Harumph outa that guy.