Thanks for the helpful replies, ive been shooting at paper plates and am getting satisfactory groups but with barrel sites and weather conditions they often go a little one way or another. Rather than stress about it, i think a more realistic sized target (bison) might provide more enjoyment. I know the gun can shoot and i can hold it steady, but the front site is bigger than an 8'' paper plate at 200 yards, and i often go home disappointed. I think i'll start with cardboard and see what i can and cant do. Im just trying to figure the maximum distance from center on a circle that would give a ding i could still be proud of, hence my how big are the vitals question. As for sloppiness im just trying to replicate what the run of the mill ragamuffin buffalo hunter would have done in texas, im definitely no champion shooter lol.