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Title: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Tuolumne Lawman on September 25, 2021, 05:23:32 PM
Been on a binge of Westerns lately.  Noticing lots of Henries and 1866s, too.  Saber River, of course, Godless, Justice. Badlands, The Missing, Shenandoah with Jimmy Stewart, Buffalo Girls, Broken Trail, Lonesome Dove I & II, Silverado and a bunch more.

Nice to see....
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Johnson Barr on September 27, 2021, 01:09:51 PM
Also seems to be a great number of '92's masquerading as Henry's; sans fore end wood with brass looking receivers. Take a close look at Pea Eyes rifle in 'Streets of Laredo'.  Most screen shots go out of the way to hide the loading gate, but the separate mag tube dove tailed at the muzzle end are a dead give away. 
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Tuolumne Lawman on September 27, 2021, 08:39:10 PM
Yep,  IIRC, in Shenandoah there were a couple 92ish faux -Henry rifles, but one looked real.
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Coffinmaker on September 28, 2021, 09:22:19 AM

 :)  Couldn't Resist   ;)

As an aside, a Henry with a separate Magazine Tube, with a Dovetail Ferule at the muzzle, is actually hystericaly kerekt.  Of course, there was only one, but still . . . .

Play Safe Out There Children
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Johnson Barr on October 01, 2021, 12:54:32 PM
Well then there are those pesky bolt locking lugs popping up through the top of the '92 receiver. A real tell in close-up shots. Once you get caught up in the story such details are only a minor irritation.  Growing up with a 15" B&W set and the post civil war Favor/Yates trail drives the miss cast firearms didn't jump out at me until years later after acquiring period firearms. The '73 Colt SA's and Marlin '94's were well of the time period.   
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: mtmarfield on March 05, 2022, 12:30:23 AM
      Greetings, Folks!

   As I lie here, recovering from the Grip ( COVID-itis ), I've been enjoying immensely the remake of "True Grit"
on Netflix! One or two Henry Patent Rifles to be seen...

                  Be Well!

                               M.T,.Marfield
                                  3-04-22
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Rube Burrows on June 04, 2022, 06:04:12 PM
A lot of the older westerns....esp those made for TV often use 1892s with the forearm removed and the reciever painted gold or sometimes just not painted at all.

Bonanza was esp bad about that. I guess they wanted the look but obviously real Henry rifles were surely too scarce and expensive to use and the replicas were either not around or just getting started depending on year.
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Coffinmaker on June 05, 2022, 07:56:58 AM

As a Patron of the Henry Rifle, I have oft wished someone of late would produce a nice run of 44 Henry Flat Rimfire.  I know of several really nice Henry Rifles in good shooting condition, with no appreciable provenance, that could be liberated now and again for gobs of fun (sigh)

Play Safe Out There
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Cowtown on June 05, 2022, 12:52:31 PM
Drives me nuts to see the Henry being held by a pilgrim in a movie and the follower is next to the receiver OBVIOUSLY showing the rifle empty/unloaded and useless.  ;)
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Coffinmaker on June 06, 2022, 07:27:32 AM

 :) PLUS ONE for Cowtown  ???
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Bart Slade on June 08, 2022, 05:56:52 PM
:) PLUS ONE for Cowtown  ???

Stopped in to say the same!    The game my wife and I play (now that we've shot a Henry replica):   Where's the shot that clearly shows the Henry is empty (follower all the way back).   Bonus points if they lever it AFTER you see the follower all the way back - so that there's no chance there's a round in the chamber!  And all this is assuming a "real" Henry rifle (not a stock removed 92). 

And of course that's in addition to the game you play with all lever action rifles in movies - when do they lever it, only to have the next shot show the hammer down.

1 point for the lever then hammer down
2 points for follower all the way back
5 points for levering AFTER seeing the follower all the way back.
10 points for a Henry WITHOUT the follower all the way back (RARE!)

Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Cheyenne Logan on June 09, 2022, 10:08:44 AM
If you want to see a pretty good movie with Henry Rifles, look for Fort Dobbs, 1958. Clint Walker, Brian Kieth.......in it Kieth has pack horses loaded down with Henry rifles, and there are scenes where the packs are open and you can plainly see they are Henry rifles!  Now, somehow when they used these at the climatic ending of the movie, fighting the indians, they've become 92's with the forearms removed........
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on June 09, 2022, 01:21:50 PM
Now, somehow when they used these at the climatic ending of the movie, fighting the indians, they've become 92's with the forearms removed........

That just shows how rapidly firearms technology increased in those days. I once saw a movie showing the attack on the Harpers Ferry arsenal. When they started the attack, they had muzzle loading rifles but when they got close and started shooting, they had trapdoor Springfields. Now THAT'S some rapidly developing technology.
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Cheyenne Logan on June 09, 2022, 06:39:18 PM
'Merica!
 ;D
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Reverend P. Babcock Chase on June 09, 2022, 09:33:22 PM
Howdy Coal Creek and all,

Re: those muzzleloaders the evolved into trapdoors - a lot of "movie muzzleloaders" were in fact trapdoors that were cosmetically adapted to look like muzzleloaders. Full stocks and fake flintlock looking hammers, etc. They could then use 45/70 blanks.

Rev. Chase
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Coffinmaker on June 10, 2022, 09:39:06 AM

 :D  Welcome to the world of Hollyweird   :o
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Cheyenne Logan on June 23, 2022, 09:56:50 AM
Longriders, in the scene where the gang is hiding in McCorkendales barn, Frank (Stacy Keech) is holding/cleaning a Henry, you can see the follower against the reciever and about 3/4 of the reciever, the camera pans away, then when it returnds to frank, he is sliding cartridges into a 92 with the forearm removed.....:)
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Cheyenne Logan on June 27, 2022, 10:27:33 AM
 ;D still from Ft. Dobbs..... she's looking at him like I'd be looking at that Henry! ;D
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Coffinmaker on June 28, 2022, 10:18:59 AM
 :) Cheyenne  ;)

Yessiree Bob!!  And, we can all note, the follower is smack down against the receiver.  Perfectly good empty rifle.  At least they got part of it right.

Have Fun Out There
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Cheyenne Logan on June 28, 2022, 12:17:46 PM
 ;D What's really cool, is there are several in this movie, and they ain't replicas!
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: nativeshootist on June 28, 2022, 03:45:55 PM
 Heres a little screen grab from a movie called sacred ground, the henry becomes a main point for the story. When they shoot it they buck like its a elephant gun.
(https://i.imgur.com/8vrm6Ls.jpg)
Title: Re: Lots of Henries in the movies.
Post by: Niederlander on November 22, 2022, 06:40:00 AM
I've notice that in books, too, when they'll describe how "powerful" a Henry is.  A great leap forward in rifles, but not much more powerful that an 1860 Army Colt!