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Title: 50-70 dies
Post by: Blue Eyed Cabellero on July 08, 2021, 08:57:46 AM
I’m looking for a set of 50-70 reloading dies.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on July 08, 2021, 09:26:36 AM
All I can tell you is get the Hornady dies, neither the lyman nor the RCBS sets size the brass enough for the .511-.512 bullets my Shiloh and Chiappa preferred.  They do work well enough for .515+ bullets.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on July 08, 2021, 09:59:42 AM
BEC,
Is it you or BB looking for the dies?
GT
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Blue Eyed Cabellero on July 08, 2021, 10:33:06 AM
We both are. I’m buying a Mcnelly Sharps from OkTom
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on July 08, 2021, 10:53:03 AM
OIC...Maybe I should get in on the fun and get a 50-70!
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on July 08, 2021, 11:00:37 AM
IMHO, there is no bp round easier to load nor more enjoyable to shoot than the .50-70.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Niederlander on July 08, 2021, 04:34:29 PM
It's an awesome round in smokeless, such as Trail Boss, too.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: ira scott on July 08, 2021, 09:39:46 PM
It's an awesome round in smokeless, such as Trail Boss, too.

With all due respect Sir,  That Sh#t ain't Right! 

IMHO   B.N. Scotty
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Niederlander on July 09, 2021, 07:55:13 AM
Works for me!  (Actually, even though I shoot smokeless, I IDENTIFY as a black powder shooter............)
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Reverend P. Babcock Chase on July 09, 2021, 09:50:20 AM
plus one for Niederlander.

Rev. Chase
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Pitspitr on July 10, 2021, 08:08:31 AM
I have an extra set. Can you wait until Ruckus?
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Blue Eyed Cabellero on July 10, 2021, 03:18:25 PM
That would be great! I can wait until the ruckus. Thank you!!
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Johnson Barr on July 12, 2021, 03:36:09 PM
Robert you can barrow mine until Jerry-time. I'll bring them to the next Berger shoot.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Blue Eyed Cabellero on July 14, 2021, 07:28:33 PM
Thank you Mark. The ones I found in Ebay came in but Joe might want to borrow them.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 23, 2021, 08:41:51 AM
Okay...not to be left out, I bought a vintage 50-70 RB.
I need some dies.  Any leads are greatly appreciated.
Troy
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on September 23, 2021, 03:49:45 PM
Dang, checked all my usual sources, all out.  Not much brass out there either! There is some on Gunbroker.  You can put a backorder in at Starline.

Suggest you keep checking ebay, and put in an alert at Buffalo Arms.  Your RB should like .515s, so any die set will work.  IF I understand the swapping around going on above us, seems one of those guys should have an extra set you can borrow?
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 23, 2021, 07:36:29 PM
Thanks, Drydock.  I put in an order with Optics Planet for some Redding Dies.  They say 16 to 25 days, but I expecting this is a bait and switch...hence I'm looking for some that are real and have a tracking number put on them immediately.

I may do a deal with one of the Blues Brothers (Joe and Robert) to where I can go visit them and do some reloading.
 
I did get brass on order from Starline.  It should be here tomorrow.

I'm trying to figure out if any of the modern 50 cal. dies would work.  I'll do some research and see if the dimensions would allow to use something like 50 AE or 500 S&W dies in a make-shift fashion...I don't need a full length resizer...since I have the one rifle, I would just resize the case mouth, expand it, and something to put a light crimp on the bullet. 
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on September 23, 2021, 08:40:17 PM
NO!  :o  Those will not work.  I know at least one, most likely both, are set up for .500 bullets.  You need .515s at least to work well in your RB.  You would be better off getting a Lee universal flare die, then simply thumb seating your bullets, No dies at all.  I have seen some nice groups done that way.  Won't take rough handling, but you can shoot until the dies show up.  Do you have a bullet mold yet?
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 24, 2021, 06:24:28 AM
No bullet mold....Many Horses will not allow me to cast bullets.  She fears I will get lead poisoning.  It is a battle that I have lost with her.  I'll slug the barrel this weekend to confirm the bullet diam. needed.  Both Buffalo Arms and Midway have 515 bullets available.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Major 2 on September 24, 2021, 07:11:58 AM
You might try  Whyte Leather Works ...he's a vendor posted on this Forum

He casts, and I use several of his bullets

5557 Bobbywood Ave
San Jose, Ca
95124
Business Genre: Gunleather, Reloading Supplies
Short Business Description:
Custom Leather Shop and Maker of Big Lube Bullets.
Business Website Address: www.whyteleatherworks.com
Business Phone Number: 408 356-5031
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Tascosa Joe on September 24, 2021, 09:51:10 AM
No bullet mold....Many Horses will not allow me to cast bullets.  She fears I will get lead poisoning.  It is a battle that I have lost with her.  I'll slug the barrel this weekend to confirm the bullet diam. needed.  Both Buffalo Arms and Midway have 515 bullets available.
After 45 years of casting, I still don't have lead poisoning and I have been tested for lead levels.  ;D
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 24, 2021, 10:22:41 AM
Thanks, Major.  I use Whyte bullets in my pistol calibers, and am happy with the.
Joe...maybe Mary would listen to you...I've given up.  I've considered casting on the sly....
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: ira scott on September 24, 2021, 03:22:23 PM
And IF,  your Favorite Wife will listen to Joe about the hazards of bullet casting, he can give here some advice on smoking tobacco!  I wouldn't suggest "on the sly" Troy,  that sounds dishonest. (hee hee!)

Mike
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: ira scott on September 24, 2021, 03:23:58 PM
"her"  damn proof reader!

Mike
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Pitspitr on September 25, 2021, 09:51:58 AM
If it's any consolation Troy, my "Favorite Wife" feels the same way about me casting. I go along with it not so much because I agree with her or that I'm PW'ed or any of that, but because I have time to reload or cast, but not both.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Mogorilla on September 25, 2021, 10:05:28 AM
Ha.  Yeah i barely have time for all aspects of my hobby as well, so i bite the bullet and buy them.   Also, i am a chemist and we get blood tests done at least once a year to check for nasties.    No way i want to pop for heavy metals unless it is Iron Maiden, who were awesome in 83 and 86 when i saw them.   Did more damage to my ears than all this shooting i bet.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Pitspitr on September 25, 2021, 01:24:07 PM
I may do a deal with one of the Blues Brothers (Joe and Robert)
BTW
Blues Brothers! I like that  ;D
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Johnson Barr on September 25, 2021, 01:56:53 PM
Blues Brothers are members of grand up standing in the 'Bobble Head' gang. Troy you might check with Robert, he won a set of .50-70 moulds at the Muster banquet this past June. Reloading dies foe loan should not be an issue; 4 of us at Bergers have die sets.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 27, 2021, 10:51:58 AM
Thanks, Mark!
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 27, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
A little off subject....
Does any one have experience with these bullets from Dixie Gun Works?
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/product/product_id/377/category_id/336/product_name/BA1106+Dixie+Cast+Conical+Bullet+5070
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on September 27, 2021, 11:59:53 AM
FWIW I've been casting for 40 years now.  Been tested every year, 20 of those by the USN.  Never had any detected.  Have always cast in an outer building (shed/garage) with open windows.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 27, 2021, 12:48:13 PM
Many Horses is softening up on the issue....I got a "maybe" I'll let you from her this weekend.
But, Jerry has a good point....there is only so much time available.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: ira scott on September 27, 2021, 05:14:28 PM
Maybe there will be more time available for you next year, when you get that four letter word, (WORK) out of your life!

B.N. Scotty
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on September 27, 2021, 05:58:47 PM
I actually enjoy casting, especially the big single shot bullets.  I can and will often buy bullets for my pistol rounds, but there's a lot of artisanship in the big rounds, and you find yourself wanting to control the whole process.  Good long range ammunition damn near demands it!
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Pitspitr on September 28, 2021, 08:34:08 AM
Oh, it's not that I don't ENJOY casting, it's just that there are a lot of things I'd RATHER do and I just run out of time to do all of them. I pretty much HAVE to reload (I do enjoy it too) so it's higher up on the list.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 28, 2021, 02:27:39 PM
So, I was just checking the order status for the Redding 50-70 dies I ordered from Optics Planet....
I noticed that the order confirmation showed them to be 45-70 dies.  Hmm...I'm sure that is NOT what I ordered!
I checked the website again, and found that there was a "typo".  The title shows the dies I ordered to be 50-70, and the description is for 45-70....
they were actually 45-70 dies.  Redding doesn't make 50-70 dies...knew this was too good to be true...
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on September 28, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
Optics Planet shows RCBS 50-70 dies shipping in 1-3 months (FWIW) and with a sale price.  In their "Group B" listings.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on September 28, 2021, 05:28:44 PM
Thanks, Chuck.  I ordered the RCBS dies.
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Good Troy on October 09, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
I've found a set here local!  I will pick them up today along with some brass, some loaded rounds, and a compression plug.  The bullet diameter is too small for my bore (~0.505" vs. 0.515" needed), so I'll be tearing down the loads or blasting them off at the range.  I should be well stocked here shortly!
Title: Re: 50-70 dies
Post by: Drydock on October 10, 2021, 06:35:43 PM
Yay!  Just ordered another 250 cases from Starline.  Should get me thru the rest of my life I think.