Addendum,
To close this thread. i ended up buying a pair from Andy Bachman from Germany had a pair of straight shanks that fit the bill
I was in a hurry (aren't we all), I made a set or spur straps and wore them one day .... I found I definitely have to watch how I walk!!
My camera won't work with my Windows 8 new computer; looks like I am going to have to break down and buy a new camera ....
So you guys are spared having to look at a set of Ropers and spurs ... *S*