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CAS TOPICS => Gunsmithing => Topic started by: Spanish Marshal on February 22, 2005, 01:07:10 AM
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Howdy pards:
One more time I need your help. I´ve a Baikal scattergun, "Bounty Hunter II" model. Its current buttplate is made of bakelite and I want to change it for a metal one, (steel or brass). Does anybody know the web of the company that sells this type of buttplate for my gun?.
Thanks for your help and excuse for my english grammar.
Adios compadres.
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Spanish:
I found one (a whole passel, actually) at a gunshow last weekend.
Feller had a table fulla old butt plates & grips. Many were metal. Most weren't.
They were priced @ only $1.00 to $5.00.
Gunshow season is upon us now.
I'd make me a tracin' of your butt plate & take it wit' you to a show & look around.
Betch you'll find one.
You'll probably do some filin' & sandin', though.
Jus' a idee....
MG
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Gregg, they may not have gun shows in Espaina........Buck 8) ::) :o ;)
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Hi Mustang Gregg and Four-Eyed Buck:
Thanks for your information.
I was speaking with one friend about "to copy" my butt plate in a piece of brass. My friend is a handyman and it´s possible for him to make this work.
In Spain, (España), we have few gun shows, and we can´t buy parts of guns. Sometimes, in militaria shows is possible to buy some parts, for example butt for mauser, or old magazines, they are not basic parts of guns.
Excuse for my bad grammar. I think that I speak and write english how the red skins in the old west movies.
Sincerely yours
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SM, You don't do too bad, we've got teenagers over here that don't do half as well as you do! :o sorry about messin' up espan~a, at least I was close. If you can get someone to fabricate something for you, might be your best bet. I wasn't aware that that you did have some form of gun shows over there, just not as open as ours.....Buck 8) ::) ;)
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OOPs...My bad. I reckoned even with that alias, you were here in the US.
MG
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I have one of these scatterguns too. I discovered that because they are so light in weight, it's not a good idea to shoot hunting loads in it. I recommend light target loads, or black powder. After a shoot where I used hunting loads, I had a bruise that ran from my shoulder almost down to my elbow. I now use very light target loads, or black powder and I wear a strap on recoil pad hidden under my shirt. No more bruises for this old trooper!!!
I might add...shooting black powder loads is great fun! They make one helluva smoke cloud!
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To Spanish Marshal:
If you can't find a replacement buttplate to your liking (although your friend the machinist says he MIGHT be able to do it and it would look great) you might consider a leather wrap. With a little work, you could make one your self that covers most or all of that nasty plastic buttplate.
By the way, your English is fine and very understandable. I'm embarrassed to say that there are many Americans who don't speak any English better than you.
Adios, Amigo!
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To Steel Horse Bailey:
Thank you for your interest.
Excuse me for not having answered you before, but I have been very busy during two weeks outside of my home., (I have been in a maneuvers with my Unit).
Thank you again
Spanish Marshal
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You could do what one of my shooting pards did here in NZ.
He made a cast from the butt plate on the s/gun then melted down all his excess and spare brass and cast a new one. Looks very nice.
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I've got one of these Russian doubles and I do say that they indeed kick like a mule. I ended up putting a thick buffalo hide 'buttstock protector' (read 'shoulder protector') over the butt of the gun. Sweet.
Plus I don't feel as bad about sticking the butt of the shotgun down in the dirt at shoots.
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I've got one of these Russian doubles and I do say that they indeed kick like a mule. I ended up putting a thick buffalo hide 'buttstock protector' (read 'shoulder protector') over the butt of the gun. Sweet.
Plus I don't feel as bad about sticking the butt of the shotgun down in the dirt at shoots.
There is another little trick you can use top reduce kick. Remove your butt plate. If there is a quarter sized hole on the stock back there.....pour in about 8 ounces of #9 (or smaller) birdshot. Don't fill it totally up. The shot has to slop around in there. This acts as a shock absorber and will reduce kick somewhat. If it is still a problem....look for trap and skeet loads...the light ones. A third trick you can use is to purchase one of those strap on recoil pads and wear it under your shirt. You can also shoot Black Powder ammo. This has less kick than smokeless.
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I love my Baikal with the external hammers. I disbled the auto part of the saftey, so it still works by flipping the switch manually. Sure is a great shooting little gun.
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Spanish Marshal
Have you tried ordering one over the internet? A generic one might need some modifications but, shouldn't take more than a Belt sander, to do the job.
I don't know what import laws that might restrict you from doing this, Try www.brownells.com
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Though the buttplate of the time was most often hard rubber - some were made of Horn and steel and inletted - or 'skeletonized' Steel that would allow the wood to protrude through the open areas and be checkered.
This feature is seen on the 'better' shotguns of the day and is still a mark of 'quality'.
You 'could' do the same - given the fact that you have a perfect template to begin with - limited by your ability with a saw or drill press and some good files.
The site - www.brownells.com - will show some ideas - importation should be no problem - though shipping cost and customs tax may drive the price too high for comfort.
Winter is approaching - get a decently-sized piece of Steel and some files and an idea - and you have a small project for a couple of evenings.
Vaya,
Scouts Out!
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Hello from Spain folks:
After being outside of my home, (I´ve been with my Unit on maneuvers ), I can be here again with you. ;) ;)
Thank you very much for your information and your interest.
Sincerely
Spanish Marshal