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Offline Harley Starr

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Who's your favorite Western villian?
« on: March 07, 2010, 01:21:14 AM »
A Western needs a "good" villian that you just love to hate.
I'll start off by saying that Scott Wilson's portrayal of the self-proclaimed mormon Danite John "Red Jack" Stillwell in The Tracker has got to be one of the most interesting bad guys I've ever seen.

Is there one in particular that you would call Bad News Walkin'?

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 03:03:17 AM »
He acted "bad to the bone," alright...!

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 06:46:38 AM »
I really liked Henry Fonda in "Once Upon a Time in the West".

Especially since he's almost always a good guy.

But the deepest villain character is undoubtedly Sam Swearingen of HBO's Deadwood series.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 12:19:59 PM »
Jack Palance's character in "Shane".
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 01:59:56 PM »
Lee Marvin as (a)  Liberty Valance in The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, and (b) Tully Crow in The Commancheros.

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 02:48:48 PM »
Bruce Dern in "The Cowboys". >:(

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 05:19:23 PM »
Karl Malden, Lee Van Cleef and Jack Elam all are right up there with the other stated above.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 05:22:16 PM »
As mentioned above, Jack Elam amd Bruce Durn are great movie bad guys.

It's too bad that Jack Elam has passed on though...!

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 08:28:48 PM »
Adios, Alamosa Bob.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2010, 01:02:39 AM »
The ultimate bad guy to me was whoever played Charley Prince in "3:10 To Yuma ...
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2010, 08:20:15 AM »
Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on March 08, 2010, 01:02:39 AM
The ultimate bad guy to me was whoever played Charley Prince in "3:10 To Yuma ...

That's Ben Foster, who got a SAG Award nomination for the role.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2010, 09:17:05 AM »
Daniel,

IMHO, he really stole the movie from the people meant to be the stars. One could write a whole master's thesis on how he got as twisted as he did ... did he view Crowe's figure as messianic? A father figure?

I have thought far more on his character than any other part of the movie ... especially the look in his eyes and the body language when he allowed Crowe's personna to shoot him again and again ....
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2010, 10:44:25 AM »
Ben Foster's Charlie Prince was very well executed(no pun intended) :D. Come to think of it, I remember this picture of him for a movie called The Messenger, and for some reason he reminded me of Scott Wilson.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2010, 11:06:05 AM »
Quote from: WaddWatsonEllis on March 08, 2010, 09:17:05 AM
IMHO, he really stole the movie from the people meant to be the stars.

Heh-heh-heh!  That often happens with well-played villians; and also with animals and kids.

Though he's only been in one Western, one of my favorite villian actors is Alan Rickman.  I first saw him as "Hans Gruber", the boss bad-guy in Die Hard, where he nearly stole the show from Bruce Willis.  He also played "Elliott Marston" in Quigley Down Under, and is now playing "Severus Snape" in the Harry Potter movies.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2010, 06:09:25 PM »
Funny how life works out: I was gonna watch the Grammys, and ended up watching Quigley Down Under ....and I don't think I lost anything at all ....

But I agree Alan Rickman can play a real piece of work ... even when he plays the good guy!

There is just something so dark and self-destructive about the man and what he brings to his roles ... even when he played a spoof on Spock in Galaxy Quest ...

Another ''unkown" in 'Quigley Down Under' was Laura San Giacomo ... it was such a different personna than that of her the TV show she was in (Just Shoot Me).

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2010, 06:43:17 PM »
Quote from: Silver Creek Slim on March 07, 2010, 02:48:48 PM
Bruce Dern in "The Cowboys". >:(

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Yep, Bruce at his best, although any bad guy he plays is good. ;D

He got the role because John Wayne would have had it no other way, with out Bruce John Wayne would have not taken on the role.  He is still the only bad guy good enough to shoot John Wayne in the back, sorry the rest are just wanna be's. ;)
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2010, 12:12:17 PM »
hands down I agree with Bruce Dern and his phenomenal skill at making you dislike him.   While Van Cleef was a great villian as Angel Eyes in gb&u, Bruce Dern was excellent in both The Cowboys and Hang em High

Miller (Dern): You ain't never gonna get me back to town alive, boy.
Jed Cooper (Eastwood): Then I'll get you there dead... boy
He is also excellent in HBO's Big Love.   Downright villianous there too.

Every villian needs henchmen and for down right eveel henchmen I nominate L.Q. Jones and Strother Martin
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 05:39:37 PM »
Richard Jaeckel played Charley Prince 1957 the original 3-10 to Yuma, in the  2007 movie it was
Ben Foster.

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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 10:36:43 PM »
Bruce Dern for sure and for the earlier movies I liked Brian Donlevy.
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Re: Who's your favorite Western villian?
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 01:54:21 PM »
There are so many great "bad guys" that it is hard to pick just one. But, off the top of my head, I would have to pick the one that is the most ruthless, cold blooded killer of them all... Peter Fonda's character "Frank", from Once Upon a Time in the West.

Some folk might not agree with me, but any bad guy that will stone cold two kids and never blink has go to be an all time western bad guy. He was such a bad guy that he made other bad guys look good in comparison.
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