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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: 1876 Winchester Project Rifle
« Last post by Tully Mars on Today at 09:37:37 AM »
What a great project! I wish I would have found this post several months back while I was putting a 76' together. Funny thing is, they are quite similar looking. It's in 45-60, I shot it in two matches this fall that had Tom Horn categories!
Tully

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The Leather Shop / Re: SHOW US YER STUFF Thread #5
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Today at 09:31:52 AM »
Latest two holsters made for a pair of Schofields.
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The American Plainsmen Society / Re: Hawken Rifles
« Last post by Jeremiah Jones on Today at 09:15:38 AM »
I agree.  But even among "Plains rifles", Hawken's were only a small portion. To me the term Hawken is used like saying "Corvette" to mean an automobile.
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The Barracks / Re: 1896 Army-Navy Colt .38 question
« Last post by Tuolumne Lawman on Today at 09:11:56 AM »
The guy finally agreed to sell me the 1895 with engraving (for much less than he first quoted).  Awesome.  I have some heeled .38 long Colt I loaded for my Kirst Konverted 1851, so I will take it to the range tomorrow and shoot a few rounds.

Sadly, he decided to keep the rest.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: Cleaning BP guns
« Last post by wildman1 on Today at 07:58:13 AM »
I have seen ML breech plugs rust and rusted from using room temp water then dried with patches etc and then lubed with whatever lube you prefer. You will NOT get all the moisture out of the breech plug area in a muzzle loader with normal dry patch wiping and then lubing.
wM1
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The American Plainsmen Society / Hawken Rifles
« Last post by Niederlander on Today at 07:42:06 AM »
Gentlemen, I've been doing research on various muzzle loaders, and their authenticity.  The most common comment I keep seeing is some form of "It's not close to a real Hawken".  In most cases that's entirely true.  I do wonder if most people who should know better realize Hawkens were a small minority of the rifles used in the west.  Most seemed to have used whatever they already had, at least until it wore out.  Many were rebored to bigger calibers, but that was a whole lot less expensive to have done than buying a new rifle, especially for people who were pretty financially strapped to start with.  Just because we think something is cool doesn't mean the majority of people used it.  Just my thoughts.
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A friend of mine has an original '76 in "well used" condition.  Cut down .45-70 cases generally have to thick a rim to work in his rifle.  They work wonderfully in my Uberti '76.  For what it's worth.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: Cleaning BP guns
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Today at 07:04:29 AM »
 :)  YEPPER  ;)

PLUS ONE (or TWO) for the other TWO Geezers

People are Hazardous to yer Health
Avoid Them

PS:  Does that make us the "Three Musket Tears??"
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Hope you all dig this!

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According to the "Handloader's Manual of Cartridge Conversion", page 597:
The .45-60 Win. has a rim thickness of .062".
The .45-70 Gov't is listed at .07" rim thickness, as is the .45-75 Win.
The .50-95 Win. is also listed with a .06" rim thickness.
The .40-60 Win. is not listed in the manual at all.

My guess is that headspace problems may only be evident with original 1876's in pristine condition.
An original with about 140 years of wear will probably chamber cases with .07" thick rims just fine.

I made cases for my Uberti 1876 from cut-down Starline .45-70 brass, with no headspace issues.
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