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Title: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 11, 2014, 03:48:40 PM
Went to a team roping recently & was surprised to see that most of the hats worn by the competitors were some variation of this rediculous shape.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/Stu_Kettle/Mobile%20Uploads/75B45711-BC96-4C9C-99A2-DD52DE4445B6_zpsqxazdaqf.jpg) (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Stu_Kettle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/75B45711-BC96-4C9C-99A2-DD52DE4445B6_zpsqxazdaqf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 11, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
OK, that's not the Cool Hand Luke, that's the West Texas Punch or what most of them call it.  You can hook a team up to it and use it as a scraper box.   
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 11, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
This is the Cool Hand Luke.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/h5.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/h5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 11, 2014, 03:59:27 PM
Willing to bet none of these guys has ever bee. To west Texas.  All the horse trailers on the place had nebraska license plates.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/Stu_Kettle/Mobile%20Uploads/E4FF1D08-3ADB-4407-8332-91EFD8FF129C_zpsob68yfp1.jpg) (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Stu_Kettle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/E4FF1D08-3ADB-4407-8332-91EFD8FF129C_zpsob68yfp1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 11, 2014, 04:05:31 PM
The real working cowboys were wearing hats like this.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/Stu_Kettle/Mobile%20Uploads/AB99EA3D-BC42-42D4-8466-C8DC3845821A_zpswvmgyubd.jpg) (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Stu_Kettle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/AB99EA3D-BC42-42D4-8466-C8DC3845821A_zpswvmgyubd.jpg.html)

This is an old friend of mine. He was a cowboy when we were younger,  now he prefers to be called a "cattleman".
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: River City John on August 11, 2014, 04:13:54 PM
I've seen that style before. Seems to me the Coroner of Munchkin City wore that style. I've heard it called "The Shovel".

RCJ
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 11, 2014, 04:20:09 PM
The infamous  "Butt Crack" style.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat1_zps00acaa70.png) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat1_zps00acaa70.png.html)

May have been used to pattern a shotgun. ;D
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Arcey on August 11, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
Either of 'em wearin' a booney? Gettin' kinda partial ta mine. Next spring I'll get a khaki. Black one can get a bit warm.

Kinda liked Roo's shootin' hat. Looked like a workin' hat.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 11, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
Doesn't look like any of he butt cracks I'm familiar with. Think if I was going to put one on my head if call it something else.

John, I thought the Munchin Mayor wore a top hat.

Nope Arcey, I was the only one there wearing a boonie.  Mines kind of a grey color.  I wear it with what you'd call "the uniform" 'cept without the crocks.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 11, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
"merican Hats is what most of them wear in the straw type, can order the basic hat shaped how you want.  

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat5_zps2f66bd93.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat5_zps2f66bd93.jpg.html)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat4_zps0711e2ec.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat4_zps0711e2ec.jpg.html)

Course if they buy an unshaped one it hurts my eyes to shape it.   ::)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 11, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
Out in the sun or rain, I like my 5" plantation style straw palm leaf, know a few working cowboys wear them working.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Durham/DM030_zpsa2f83f6e.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/Durham/DM030_zpsa2f83f6e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 11, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Makes me dizzy just looking at it.

I don't understand why someone would ruin a functional hat like yours by bending it up so it won't shade his ears. If I wanted a sunburn I wouldn't waste money on a hat.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 11, 2014, 04:58:27 PM
Been goin' on a long time, often even the working ones have a whole different look when rodeoin'.

Don't forget about Casey as Ian tells it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfflEb7-9SE

The chaps were purple, the Cadillac was purple.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: WaddWatsonEllis on August 11, 2014, 05:34:11 PM
HI,

I have found the hat that I wear daily at Sun Body (http://www.sunbody.com/).

(http://http:
//i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/WaddWatsonEllis/MyNewGusHat2_zpsa43b8379.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/WaddWatsonEllis/media/MyNewGusHat2_zpsa43b8379.jpg.html)

Sun Body has very good hats made out of Palm in Guatemala ... from little pork pies to on even bigger then mine called the "EL Humongo" (and it is; more of a Sombero [made me think of Robert Mitchum in THE WONDERFUL COUNTRY]).


TTFN,
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Major 2 on August 11, 2014, 05:40:17 PM
Went to a team roping recently & was surprised to see that most of the hats worn by the competitors were some variation of this rediculous shape.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k554/Stu_Kettle/Mobile%20Uploads/75B45711-BC96-4C9C-99A2-DD52DE4445B6_zpsqxazdaqf.jpg) (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/Stu_Kettle/media/Mobile%20Uploads/75B45711-BC96-4C9C-99A2-DD52DE4445B6_zpsqxazdaqf.jpg.html)

Kinda retro Flying Nun look  ;D
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 12, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
The Sun Body Palm are enexpensive and durable. The infamous "Taco" crease was left out. I am sorta partial to the George Strait crease.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 10:42:15 AM
The Sun Body Palm are enexpensive and durable. The infamous "Taco" crease was left out. I am sorta partial to the George Strait crease.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/h2.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/h2.jpg.html)

A lot of the horse show people are going to a square version of this and a lot of the Hispanics are having me lower their tacos so that people don't think they are horse show people.   ;D

True story a couple of them have told me that.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 10:58:45 AM
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat22_zpsf3173aa9.jpeg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat22_zpsf3173aa9.jpeg.html)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat23_zps6985b9ca.jpeg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat23_zps6985b9ca.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 11:02:01 AM
BTW if anyone stumbles onto this thread and is offended, do us all a favor:

Suck it up, cowboy up or go out and cry in your Prius.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 13, 2014, 11:12:03 AM
Straw hats are a must in the summertime. I use them to keep my bald head from getting sunburned.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 11:20:29 AM
Straw hats are a must in the summertime. I use them to keep my bald head from getting sunburned.

I work on them, I sell them, I hate them and refuse to wear these modern so called straw hats made of paper and painted.  Palm or light brown felt for summer.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 13, 2014, 12:16:50 PM
My wife's cousin, George Williams used to travel with Casey in his purple Caddie. George rode Saddle Broncs as well. George is a member of the PRCA HOF in Colorado Springs. In later years, he was a stunt double for John Wayne. He has a ranch in Arizona.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Forty Rod on August 13, 2014, 01:29:39 PM
A feller would need two of those hats.

One to crap in and one to cover it up with.  ::)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 13, 2014, 01:35:04 PM
(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat22_zpsf3173aa9.jpeg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat22_zpsf3173aa9.jpeg.html)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat23_zps6985b9ca.jpeg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat23_zps6985b9ca.jpeg.html)

That's the one!  Looks ridiculous.
A feller would need two of those hats.

One to crap in and one to cover it up with.  ::)

I would be embarrassed to be caught crapping in one.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
One guy here wears that square taco high and tight.  Nuther one wears like this:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/hats/hat33_zpsda26996b.jpg) (http://s72.photobucket.com/user/Delmonico_1885/media/hats/hat33_zpsda26996b.jpg.html)

They justify it by this or that famous person wears one like it, the hatter has several different hats he wears, none because someone else does, but cause he likes them, he is also calling the other two lemmings. ;D


Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 02:38:25 PM
BTW the crown on that one is so low it sticks up above yer ears. ::)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 13, 2014, 03:48:26 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 13, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
::)

Well they tell me tall crowns look dorky, I think a hat 3/4" or more above yer ears does.   ::)
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: River City John on August 13, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
Doesn't look like any of he butt cracks I'm familiar with. Think if I was going to put one on my head if call it something else.

John, I thought the Munchin Mayor wore a top hat.

Nope Arcey, I was the only one there wearing a boonie.  Mines kind of a grey color.  I wear it with what you'd call "the uniform" 'cept without the crocks.

Coroner of Munchkin City. You know, " . . . really dead, most sincerely dead."

RCJ
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 13, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
Butt Cracks are sorta personal. Just like Stimey of the Little Rascals said " I don't show my ignorance to nobody".
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 13, 2014, 05:11:23 PM
Coroner of Munchkin City. You know, " . . . really dead, most sincerely dead."

RCJ

Nope, I didn't remember. Had to look it up. Yep, goofy looking hat.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: litl rooster on August 13, 2014, 06:59:10 PM
Kinda retro Flying Nun look  ;D


Lol

That seems to be popular with the dry climate cowboys of west texas- new mexico. And team ropers when they are not wearing their favorite rope makers ball cap.

Arcey that old hat was the last working hat i had.  My gray is getting some patina to it also. My Black don't get worn enough. I do have a palm just don't wear it much. You won't see me with those nun wings, ever.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 13, 2014, 08:42:38 PM
I wear a straw hat longer in the summer. The felt hats are worn after Labor Day, then back to straws about April 1.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Arcey on August 14, 2014, 04:44:45 AM
Chose the NPD K-9-ERT ball cap for the next OFSDAR shoot. I'm an alumnus, can wear it for real. CAS, straw Memorial day ta Labor day. Black felt for the others.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 14, 2014, 07:54:19 AM
I have a collection of Athletic ball caps, college, Football, and Nascar that I wear. I wear my RGIII Redskins hat, here in the heart of Dallas Cowboy country. I also have a Texas Rangers cap(not the ball club). I also have some Masonic caps and CAF caps.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Major 2 on August 15, 2014, 12:52:36 PM
I used to have large collection of caps....many from films I did , ABC & CBS Sports, and lot of PD departments, Racing , MGM & Universal Studios , Disney , Military , just about everything... wore them once or twice and up they went .
These hung around the ceiling in my Barn, which burned to the ground 3 years ago... :(
I still have few that just happen to be in the house ....


I do have a reshaped Guatemalan palm wide brim , these were popular with old Cracker Cowboys 1870-90 Florida.
There's a lot of shade under it.
I also have  a Union of Morrisania Baseball cap, a baseball team for the National Association of Base Ball Players late 1860's,
these two are my summer shooting lids.

 
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Blair on August 15, 2014, 01:46:15 PM
I have made more than a few hat/caps in my day.
Not the least of which were the leather Imperial German helmet known as the "Pickelhaube", (spelling) for those in reenacting wishing to do early WWI German.

At our local flea market I found a wide primed high crowned palm hat, that fit my head size.
This I turned into a Hispanic style Sombrero (spelling). With a rolled brim all around, but higher roll in the front and back.
I thought the "palm" would be cooler in the summer. I found a well made "palm" hat was not cooler, It was however, lighter than a good felt hat, and that was in the summer heat and humidity of FL. more comfortable.
My best,
 Blair
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 15, 2014, 09:52:29 PM
I never wear a ball cap. Never played ball either. I have a couple straw hats, but seldom wear em. I wear a brown felt hat year-round. I did pull the liner out of it one 100+ degree day at Fort Pitspitr. It's much cooler now that it can breath.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: pony express on August 16, 2014, 10:43:34 PM
I've gone through a few "Ball cap" periods in my days. Last time was several years ago.....wow, now that I think about it, maybe close to 10... when I had hair about as long as Arcey's, and any time I drove with the window down, I had to take off the hair tie and re-do it. So I always kept a cap in the truck. Never wore a cowboy hat until I started CAS, first one was one of those $10 hard white "straw" hats, just enough to meet the "dress code" Still just have one palm leaf and my SAW campaign hat. Tried a couple of those floppy "crushable" cowboy hats when I was riding the motorcycle to shoots, but they never looked right after rolling them up into the saddlebag the first time.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Arcey on August 17, 2014, 07:07:12 AM
No cowboy hats 'til I started the CAS stuff either.

Been wearin' ball caps for years. Ever since the sun burnt the bald spot on the back of my head when I was doin' yard werk.

The booney's for shade. 'Nother plus is I ain't advertizin' no one's product for free. Wore a sailin' hat when I was racin' ballast. Similar to a booney but the brim's wider. Chin string kept it on in the convertible. It finally disintegrated. Prolly from bein' dunked in the Elizabeth River. Guess I'll be mostly wearin' 'em in the future. Gotta dermatologist appointment again Thursday – don't like visitin' dermatologists.

Found a white dress shirt with a Farm Fresh Supermarket logo embroidered on the breast at a thrift shop. Thinkin' it was a manager thing. Hadda Butterball ball cap. I'd wear 'em together 'n go ta grocery stores where I weren't known. Used ta have employees followin' ta watch what I was doin'.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 17, 2014, 08:23:40 AM
That keeps the employees on their toes. We got a slow, easy drizzle going now.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: El Peludo on August 17, 2014, 12:36:41 PM
I have been following along here with some interest.  I have worn a head covering of some sort or another pretty much all the time since I was about seven; got into Cub Scouts and baseball about then, and almost all of my vocations and avocations have called for some sort of head wear.  I have always been a maverick as regards fashion and being in the "in" crowd, so in jr. high and high school, I wore a couple of fedora style hats, both were of the common style that older men wore at the time, pinched front crown and a three inch brim; one was a nice grey wool or fur, and the other was a bright red corduroy.  I have always had one of that style in my collection, today's version is a "Crusher" with a mesh side crown - actually, two of them; they ride around in the tool box of my truck.  My common daily is a ball cap, though.  It helped to keep my hair under control - when I still had hair to keep; and it doesn't have a brim to get in the way when I am driving; I was always knocking my hats cockeyed in the truck or car from bumping into the window when I turned my head, or in later years, the head rests caused me to have to lean forward more than I like.  My CAS haberdashery consists of a Stetson in "silverbay" with a seven or eight inch open crown and a four inch brim, a planter style panama straw with a six inch brim, and a black felt with a four inch brim and a crown that mostly resembles a pinch because it has been knocked out and re-formed so many times.  The other "hat" in my life, and the one I probably put in more hours wearing was a white "plastic" hard hat or cap; still have one out in the garage.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Texas Lawdog on August 17, 2014, 01:08:26 PM
I have several of those "hard hats" from construction days. I have been follicolly challenged since I was 26, and I have a ruddy complexion from my Scottish heritage. My Cherokee helps to keep me from sunburn. I always wear a hat or cap when I am outside.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 17, 2014, 02:51:32 PM
Wore a lot of hard hats over he years. Never liked em much but did see one save a man's life once, so would wear it when at risk from falling stuff. Was operating a road construction machine with no cab or ROPS one time & the safety man stopped & gave me a new hard hat. Asked if the sky was falling. He didn't see he humor & told me to wear it. Soon as he was out of sight I flung it in the road ditch. Next time he came by I got a new one.  Told him the wind blew it off & I didn't want to stop work to chase it. Took four of em before he said if I "lost" another on I'd be looking for a new job.  That one lasted till I got in a machine with a roof.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Blair on August 17, 2014, 03:38:47 PM
Worst hard hat/safety helmet accident I remember was on the flight deck an Aircraft Carrier.
A Yellow Shirt pulled out a twine engine F4 fighter, headed for the catapults.
The Engine exhaust blew the Plain Captain of a propeller driven aircraft off his feet, and into the prop of the aircraft the Plain Captain was reading for launch.
It cut both of his feet off!
A friend of mine was standing next to me with all his flight deck safety gear on, and was hit in the head with the steel toed boot of the Plain Captain.
The hit, knocked him out!
As he was coming back to consciousness, he rightfully wanted to know what had happened. I pointed to the boot... the foot was still in it, and he passed out again.
 Blair
 
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Stu Kettle on August 17, 2014, 06:14:23 PM
My story's not as graphic, but also happened aboard a Navy ship.  We were in a ship yard finishing up an overhaul so hard hats were required. I complained that mine cause me to repeated run into overhead obsticles that could have seen & avoided with a bare head. Then a 3/4 X 3" bolt fell from somewhere high above the lower level engine room & knocked my buddy to the deck. His hard hat was split in half & he cut his chin on the deck, bu not even a bump on top of his head. Those of us who witnessed it agreed that hat saved his life.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: River City John on August 17, 2014, 08:12:04 PM
https://hatcrafters.com/Shovel

I like it. You could keep things like cigars, newspapers, or sausages in there and they'd never get bucked off.

RCJ
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: pony express on August 17, 2014, 08:59:49 PM
Actually, the only hat I now wear on a really regular basis is a Fulmer motorcycle helmet, 3/4 type with flip up face shield. Lot of folks I know make a big deal about helmet laws, but even when I was riding in no helmet law states, I tried it once for about 10 miles and just didn't like it!
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on August 19, 2014, 01:02:05 PM
The Pickelhaube dates to the 1840's in Prussia and was used by the United States for dress uniforms in the later 19th Century. 
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Blair on August 19, 2014, 03:22:52 PM
A version of the Pickelhaube for the Prussian's actually dates back to the battle of Waterloo. For those Units that participated in that battle will have the Waterloo banner/ribbon displayed on the front Prussian style face plate, into the Twentieth Century.
The US will employ a felt, either wool or fur felt depending on its usage during the last half of the 19th Century. Early within that time period they are flat topped and called Shakoes. Later in that Century they are called Pith Helmets

The well known Imperial German style Pickelhaulb will be made of leather, rough or flesh side out. covered in black Lacquer to the point that the rough out leather took on a shine and gloss like polished and painted steel. 
My best,
 Blair
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: litl rooster on September 02, 2014, 07:06:21 AM
My old man had a bamboo hardhat- from a project his employer had in china maybe late 80's early 90's . It was as hard as any standard hardhat we are all use to.

I haven't rode a horse now in some years, don't get to matches much these days. So the hats take up room and collect dust. Ball cap if'n i plan on being in sun all day.

Those Taco brims are also popular with the Mexicans, it allows for more of them on the seat in a pick up truck
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Arcey on September 02, 2014, 07:49:39 AM
Took a bad spot off Goosefoot's head not long ago. Now they're gonna be whittlin' on one 'is ears pret soon.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: litl rooster on September 02, 2014, 08:37:38 AM
Took a bad spot off Goosefoot's head not long ago. Now they're gonna be whittlin' on one 'is ears pret soon.

Just sayin'.


Had a couple off my face this past year.
Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: WaddWatsonEllis on September 03, 2014, 12:10:17 AM
Hi,

I used to be a medic in the Air Farce (spelling intended).

Another medic learned my Schedule and arranged all his leave so that I covered his Surgeon as he whittled ears and noses and necks of the retired. I swore then and there that I would not sit in his chair. And that is most of the reason I wear this hat:

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/WaddWatsonEllis/MyNewGusHat2_zpsa43b8379.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/WaddWatsonEllis/media/MyNewGusHat2_zpsa43b8379.jpg.html)

(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/WaddWatsonEllis/Me.jpg) (http://s854.photobucket.com/user/WaddWatsonEllis/media/Me.jpg.html)

TTFN,

Title: Re: What's up with this hat?
Post by: Delmonico on September 23, 2014, 11:24:11 AM
If any watch The River City Rodeo in Omaha (it's on TV) this weekend, I did both hats for the rodeo queen yesterday.