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Upcoming Musters / Re: Dept. of the Missouri Muster
« Last post by ira scott on Today at 10:25:26 AM »
I need to make that one one of these days.  Glad you guys had fun!

Ken would probably appreciate having some competition!   

B.N. Scotty
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The Longbranch / Re: The "Card Game"
« Last post by DeaconKC on Today at 08:09:01 AM »
Umm....
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Morning y'all.
Coffee and tea are hot.

Drove thru rain on the way home, yesterday. It is making the grass grow.

'Tis 41 and overcast. "Warmer. Areas of fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent."

Slim
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Upcoming Musters / Re: Dept. of the Missouri Muster
« Last post by Silver Creek Slim on Today at 07:22:04 AM »
I need to make that one one of these days.  Glad you guys had fun!
You should.

Slim
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Spencer Shooting Society / Re: Larry Romano Spencer Rifles
« Last post by El Supremo on Today at 06:16:44 AM »
Hello, again, Dusty:

I have recently discovered some significant information that should apply to your Romano Spencer rifle .

Please email me:
Kevintinny"at sign"hotmail.com.

Very respectfully,
El Supremo/Kevin Tinny
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SCORRS / Re: Sixgun Spotlight - A New Series On My Channel
« Last post by Marshal Will Wingam on Today at 12:38:59 AM »
Good video, Rube. it's nice to see your presentation. Congratulations.
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The Longbranch / Re: The "Card Game"
« Last post by Russ T Chambers on Yesterday at 11:32:22 PM »
If'n the ones in the cages stay healthy, we can always eat the spares!  Picks up a large coop of birds and adds it to the pot.  If we deep fry 'em, toss 'em in hot sauce and call 'em Bufflo Wings! ;D ;D ;D ;D   By the way, anyone know how to carve Coyote.   ??? ??? ???
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by Hair Trigger Jim on Yesterday at 11:12:24 PM »

The next cartridge in the series was the .38 Long from UMC.  It was a .38" heeled bullet cartridge...

The came the .38 Long Colt. It was used in the Colt M1892 revolver.  This black powder cartridge was internally lubed...

While this sequence of development is correct, historically, the names ".38 Long" vs ".38 Long Colt" (as you probably know) didn't necessarily distinguish between the heeled and inside-lubricated cartridges.  For example, I have a 3/4 full box by Winchester (still sealed on one side) labeled "38 Cal. Long Center Fire" with headstamps reading "W.R.A.Co. .38 LONG", but loaded with inside-lubricated, not heeled, bullets.  Of course, if you look at the end of the box, not the top, you'd think the cartridge is called "38 Cal. Colts. C. F."  And if anybody can explain the period after "Colts", please let me know!
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The Darksider's Den / Re: How did we get these "Calibers"?
« Last post by FriscoCounty on Yesterday at 10:19:12 PM »
Let's start with the 1851 Colt.  It was a .36 caliber pistol because the convention was to use the bore size of .36".  The groove was about .375" and the cylinder bore diameter was .380" (this is for originals not modern copies). So far so good?  Now, when cartridge conversions came about, the rear of the cylinder was milled off and than was it.  The cartridges used heeled bullets so the case diameter, the bullet, and the cylinder bore were all .38". 

The first cartridge was the .38 Colt for use in 1851 and 1861 conversions.  The name was based on the diameter of the bullet.  It was later renamed the .38 Short Colt. 

The next cartridge in the series was the .38 Long from UMC.  It was a .38" heeled bullet cartridge with the case lengthened to allow more powder capacity and was developed by UMC for Colt's Newline revolvers and centerfire conversions of the 1851 and 1861 Colt revolvers requested by the US Navy.  Because it was developed for this contract was also known as the .38 Navy.

The came the .38 Long Colt. It was used in the Colt M1892 revolver.  This black powder cartridge was internally lubed.  As such the diameter of the bullet was now the same as the inside diameter of the case and not the outside.  Its bullet diameter was now .357".  The case of the .38LC was 0.14" longer than the .38L to allow the case to cover the lube grooves and still have the same overall length and powder capacity.  This was also known as the .38 Army.

After the .38 Long Colt came the S&W .38 Special.  The case was again lengthened to 1.15" and reduced in diameter to .379".  It was transitional in that it was introduced just before smokeless became common and was loaded with smokeless soon after it introduction.

Next came the Remington .357 Magnum.  The case was lengthened again and was a true smokeless cartridge.
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Upcoming Musters / Re: Dept. of the Missouri Muster
« Last post by Niederlander on Yesterday at 09:34:30 PM »
I need to make that one one of these days.  Glad you guys had fun!
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