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Title: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 09, 2021, 12:15:51 PM
Will the RCBS Legacy die set in .50-95 work on a new Uberti Presidio carbine in .50-95?  Or is there a better choice for dies?  Price is not a consideration.  Thanks!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 09, 2021, 02:05:22 PM
That's what I got for my Presidio, but I have yet to fire mine so the jury is still out. Still waiting for the January thaw! I got my set at Graf's.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 09, 2021, 02:07:44 PM
On the Presidio note, have we seen this supposed carbine yet??  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 09, 2021, 07:08:53 PM
My finger is hovering over the buy it now button.  I am ready to go - rifle, dies, some small selection of bullets, I have powder and primers.... all except no brass.  I cant find any .50-95 brass.  So I need to be sure I can get some brass before I spend $1850 on the rifle.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 09, 2021, 10:15:39 PM
Goodness, you best shop around, they are cheaper than that available. As for brass, you'll probably have to make it out of 50 Alaskan, or there are a couple custom makers that make them. Not cheap tho. I got lucky and found some on gunbroker, also not cheap.

Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 10, 2021, 09:48:01 AM
Thanks for the links King.  I will be doing my homework on this today
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 10, 2021, 09:54:09 AM
Your most welcome.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: hpbear101 on February 10, 2021, 10:57:44 AM
I have a Stoeger/Uberti rifle and the  RCBS dies work fine. 50 Alaskan brass is probably the easiest route (and cheapest), it is slightly undersize at the case head so your brass will have a slight bulge at the base after firing but it works fine. All that's required is trim, size, fireform, and probably a final trim after fire form. My brass has many reloads on them so far with no losses.

The best match for brass is likely the 50-90 Sharps, in addition to trim to length you will have to trim rim as well.

Good luck
Tom

Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 10, 2021, 12:01:31 PM
Thanks Tom!  By the way, Did your new 50 ALaskan brass shrink or grow during fireforming?  My other calibers usually shrink.  In this case I would leave my initial trimming a little bit long.

I just dropped the hammer on the Presidio and all loading accessories from 4 different web sites.  Wound up with .50 Alaskan brass and the RCBS dies along with a Lyman trimmer,  pilot, & deburr tool for .50 cal.

What is the desired over all cartridge length for the Presidio carbine? My .45-60 Carbine runs great anywhere between 2.22 - 2.31

Thanks!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: KenH on February 10, 2021, 12:06:49 PM

https://sites.google.com/site/rockymountaincartridge/home/prices
http://the-puzzle-palace.com/files/baco2.htm#50
couple places to start for brass.

The link to rockymountaincartridges is an old link and is no longer valid.  It turns up a website, but it's old.  I think this linke: https://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/ will be much better.  as said, their brass is NOT cheap.  Imagine turning out the brass one at a time from brass rod.

If you find contact info on the puzzle palace site please post it.

Ken H>
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 10, 2021, 12:11:15 PM
I found rocky mountain.  I will prolly put in an order and maybe it will show up one day.  That puzzle palace link looks kinda janky.  Even if I could find contact info I am not confident that I would ever receive anything.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 10, 2021, 01:27:15 PM
I didn't know the validity of the links, I copied them from the 45/75 Brass thread, so, yeah, they were fairly old. they had 50/95 in them, so thought they would help. Didn't mean to mislead.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 10, 2021, 01:54:59 PM
No thoughts of misleading here.  Very grateful for any help!

By the way, just got my tracking number for the Presidio!!  Yeehaw!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: KenH on February 10, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
I found rocky mountain.  I will prolly put in an order and maybe it will show up one day.  That puzzle palace link looks kinda janky.  Even if I could find contact info I am not confident that I would ever receive anything.

Agreed on the puzzle palace site, I don't think it's still active.  I do think you'll get your order from rocky mountain just fine.  I sent them an email question a few hours ago and got a response from Cheri later.  She even found my email in her spam folder.  She says each order of brass is custom made to YOUR specs to be sure it works correctly.

Good luck and have fun
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: hpbear101 on February 10, 2021, 03:58:26 PM
I cut mine a little long, fireformed then trimmed to length. I had Lee make me a case trimmer as I had a hard time keeping my old RCBS trimmer consistent (I have the old collet style). The lee custom case trimmer was cheap and they are consistent. I use the Accurate 51-350CL, I used an OAL of 2.25 minus the distance to the crimping groove which if I remember right was 1.875 cartridge trim length. I look back at it now and could have gone with a slightly longer overall length and just went with the standard 1.89 length. I think original brass was 1.92 but it was for a 300sh grain bullet that was crimped over the ogive.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: pinto beans on February 10, 2021, 07:14:19 PM
Greetings All.  I can attest to Rock Mountain Cartridge.  Mine is 45-75 and not 50-95 but have had the best of service with the brass and in dealing with the company, they are good folks.  Have several rounds of RMC brass and used it for some time now as reported in the sections on 45-75.  The brass comes a little long to let you trim to length that best suits you.  Well made and is lasting very well to date.  Best of luck with the 50-95 and keep us posted!!!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 11, 2021, 10:16:27 AM
Thanks PB!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 19, 2021, 10:25:23 PM

By the way, just got my tracking number for the Presidio!!  Yeehaw!

Well?
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: Sir Charles deMouton-Black on February 20, 2021, 11:03:57 AM
Look at CH4D dies. They have been the most reasonably priced, at least for old, obsolete, and specialty calibers. Excellent quality, IMHO.

They also have a number of useful tools if you are into cartrdge case conversions. Like making 45-75 cases form .348WCF. Less necessary now that new brass is available now & then.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 20, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
Well got the Presidio today.  Literally just walked in the door from the dealers.  We had a pretty bad time this week with weather in Dallas.  I still dont have a case trimmer but I got some Starline 50 Alaskan and hand trimmed them and ran them through the RCBS die set.  The bolt wouldnt close.  The rims are too thick.  I measured the rims at .061 - .063 so I took 2 pieces and  ran them in a figure 8 on a piece of sandpaper till the rims were .058 and the bolt closes nice, .059 is slightly snug. This is gonna be a nightmare to make cases from 50 Alaskan.  I wonder if Starline .50-90 brass is thinner?  Trimming the diameter is enough work, but thinning the rims without a lathe will be a pain. I left a voicemail for Rocky Mountain brass but they never called back.

I also ordered the .513 lead bullets from Midway by Montana Precision Swaging - they are junk.  The outside diameter varies from .507 to .513, they are way out of round. I also got some Blue Falcons from Gunbroker and they look great but no crimp groove.  They will be too short if crimped over the top band so I will try to crimp into the top grease groove, with smokeless powder that shouldnt be a problem.... if I ever get some brass.

Can anyone measure the rim thickness of some Starline .50-90 for me?  I need about .057-.059 for a tolerance.  I am also gonna try RMC again on Monday and see if I can order some brass from them.  This is turning into a real project, but like my dad said, nothing good is ever easy.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: dusty texian on February 20, 2021, 05:30:45 PM
nohorse  , boy you must walk a lot ,,,,,Lol . I just checked some Starline 50-90 brass that has been fireformed in my rifle . They measured a rim thickness of .058   and are pretty consistent . Good luck getting your .50 shooting .,,,Dt .
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 20, 2021, 06:20:34 PM
Hey DT, thats why my truck gets a lot of miles!

Thanks for measuring for me, it looks like the 50-90 will be an easier conversion.  On a side note, I just slugged the bore with a .530 ball from my .54 muzzle loader and it mic’d at .5135 across the center of the grooves and .515 from corner to corner of the opposite grooves.  Man this Presidio just wants to be ornery.

I am gonna go make a dummy round with a .515 Blue Falcon bullet and make sure it will fit in the chamber, my luck the chamber neck will be too tight and the .515 seated bullet wont fit.  Standby...
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: dusty texian on February 20, 2021, 06:30:08 PM
Look forward to hearing about your success with the 50-95 they are fun .,,,DT
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 20, 2021, 07:10:29 PM
Ok just made a dummy round with the .515 276 grain Blue Falcon bullet, crimped in the top grease groove with a piece of hand cut brass (not perfect) at about 1.91”.  I had to keep reducing the outside neck to .535 to get the round to chamber.  I hope it was just the case mouth getting rolled and not compressing the bullet to a smaller diameter, but we will see after I get a chance to fireform.

I know I can use .512 or maybe even smaller bullets if I use black powder (I have done it before in other calibers).  I had an Original Ballard Pacific #5 in .40-63 that had a .413 groove and I had to use .410 bullets with a big crimp, but they shot great over 2F with a primer charge of 4 grains SR4759.  Same with a Ballard #5 in .38-55, it had a .383 groove and I had to use .379 bullets cause the chamber neck was too small.

I also have some Barnes and Woodleigh 450 grain .510 jacketed bullets.  I know the undersized jacketed bullet will be more forgiving also.

Here are a couple pics for King cause he likes pics
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 20, 2021, 07:33:01 PM
Heres a pic next to my Cimarron Crossfire Carbine in .45-60.  I have a bunch of pics and targets in the .45-60 loading thread.  I love me some ‘76!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on February 20, 2021, 09:59:49 PM
Aren't those '76s cool? Congratulations!

Griff
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 21, 2021, 07:02:01 AM
Nice pic's, Nohorse,  congrats!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: dusty texian on February 21, 2021, 08:18:07 AM
Ok just made a dummy round with the .515 276 grain Blue Falcon bullet, crimped in the top grease groove with a piece of hand cut brass (not perfect) at about 1.91”.  I had to keep reducing the outside neck to .535 to get the round to chamber.  I hope it was just the case mouth getting rolled and not compressing the bullet to a smaller diameter, but we will see after I get a chance to fireform.

I know I can use .512 or maybe even smaller bullets if I use black powder (I have done it before in other calibers).  I had an Original Ballard Pacific #5 in .40-63 that had a .413 groove and I had to use .410 bullets with a big crimp, but they shot great over 2F with a primer charge of 4 grains SR4759.  Same with a Ballard #5 in .38-55, it had a .383 groove and I had to use .379 bullets cause the chamber neck was too small.

I also have some Barnes and Woodleigh 450 grain .510 jacketed bullets.  I know the undersized jacketed bullet will be more forgiving also.

Here are a couple pics for King cause he likes pics
      Nohorse I just checked three cases that started out as 50-90 Sharps and were formed into 50-95 by Buffalo Arms . These cases were fired in a friends Uberti 50-95 one of the early models that first appeared , don't know if that matters . Anyhow the neck thickness on these cases measure .010 . Not positive but I think his barrel measured between  .513 - .514  in the groove . I don't have the rifle here just trying to clean the cases for him .,,,DT
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 21, 2021, 08:42:00 AM
Hey DT, can you tell me the outside neck diameter of a .50-90 case fired in an Uberti chamber?  Can you tell me the inside diameter too?  That would be helpful.  Thanks!

Thanks for the kind words everybody!  Im gonna get this thing shootin as soon as I can
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: dusty texian on February 21, 2021, 09:08:34 AM
Just measured the same three cases , Inside neck about .515 - .516   and outside average was .535 -  .536  was using calipers so was pushing the bass around  a little . ,,, DT
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 21, 2021, 09:26:03 AM
DT thank you very much!  This info confirms my estimates and puts me in the right direction. Wow, what a great board we have here.  Even though it is kinda quiet usually, if someone needs help there are several people who jump right in.  Thanks neighbors!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 21, 2021, 01:55:09 PM
Well I couldnt sit around and not shoot my new favorite rifle.  I cobbled together 3 rounds, and I mean cobbled.  They were ugly, brass length was 1.8, 1.85, and 1.9”, no crimps on any of them, I used Woodleigh jacketed 450 grainers at .510 diameter and 27.0 5744 powder.  The case faces had all the writing sanded off to decrease rim thickness to .057.  The only neck tension was the bullet sitting in the case neck, and the case lengths varied alot.  I elevated the muzzle to settle the powder for each shot and I got 1085, 1106, and 1108 fps and they printed a 3 shot 2” group at 50 yards, 6” above point of aim.  The group was 2” vertical and .5” horizontal.  I was expecting the big vertical due to widely varying neck tension.  The cases have no soot on the necks and the case heads did not expand above the 50 Alaskan dimension of .545.  The group printed 1” right of point of aim (easily correctable).

Hopefully my case trimmer will come in this week and I will order up some Starline .50-90 and maybe some RMC brass.  I have a feeling that with good cases and jacketed bullets this thing is gonna be my new long range varmint rifle. With good brass I will prolly start at 30.0 of 5744 and a good crimp on 450 grain .510 jacketed bullets.  Desired velocity of about 1250-1300 fps out of my 20” barrel.

Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 21, 2021, 01:58:59 PM
DT if I could please bother you for 2 more case dimensions from the Uberti fired .50-90’s.  I need the rim diameter and the case head diameter at its largest point - fired and unsized preferably.

Thanks!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: dusty texian on February 21, 2021, 02:55:38 PM
DT if I could please bother you for 2 more case dimensions from the Uberti fired .50-90’s.  I need the rim diameter and the case head diameter at its largest point - fired and unsized preferably.

Thanks!
    No Problem Amigo , I'm getting Rim Dia . of .628 on five  cases and found one @ .625 once fired in the Uberti . The case head max. on all measured .560 . Sorry  I don't have any unfired cases on hand for the 50-95 that are Starline brand to measure .,,,DT 
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 21, 2021, 02:59:17 PM
Perfect info.  Thanks very much!
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 21, 2021, 03:13:45 PM
I'm surprised those .510 bullets did so well. I'd have thought they would rattle down the barrel and keyhole badly. Might have to get some of these to try. I'm tired of winter.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 21, 2021, 03:55:55 PM
King, jacketed bullets dont operate like plain lead.  They can be way undersized and still work.  I measured my slug for the land diameter and it is .499, that means the bullets get a boat load of rifling engagement. Also the copper jacket displaced by the lands will tend to fill in the bottoms of the grooves if there is a gap.  That displaced copper has to go somewhere.  And the faster than original twist in our Presidios will easily handle the 450 grain bullets
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 23, 2021, 12:24:38 PM
Well now....

I just got back from the range with 6 rounds of ammo tested.  I got my case trimmer and I spent about 2 hours yesterday making 5 pieces of as good a quality brass as I could considering I only have the 50 Alaskan to start with.  I trimmed to 1.930, sized, expanded, and sanded down the case faces to .058.  I loaded 30.0 of 5744 and a Barnes 450 grain .510 jacketed bullet with a mild roll crimp at the top of the cannelure.  They averaged 1184 fps with an extreme spread of 12 fps and no unburnt powder. The group was about 1.25” at 50 yards.  Perfect clean round holes.  I also loaded one of the 3 “ugly” cases left over from before.  I took the least ugly and leveled out the case mouth and it wound up at 1.83.  I loaded it with 32.0 of 5744 but without a crimp cause the cannelure didnt line up on the short case.  Dang chronograph read “error”. Man if I had another round I prolly woulda shot the chrono!.  Anyway, very happy!  I have a bunch of .50-90 ordered to make correct cases for this thing, so results should only get better.  I would like to see 1250 fps out of the 20” barrel but we shall see.  Todays loads were not max by any means but I will also be switching to different brass with different internal volume, so more testing to come.

You will also notice that the point of impact dropped quite a bit compared to the previous load.  This is due to barrel dwell time.  The shorter duration inside the barrel means the bullet is out before the muzzle gets too high, even though there is more recoil and the muzzle gets higher than before.  The Point of impact also moved to the right by a full inch, I am guessing this might be due to the recoil.  This load had a pretty serious jolt to it.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on February 23, 2021, 06:52:48 PM
Thanks for the range report, complete with photo!  Sounds like you're having fun.

Griff
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 23, 2021, 10:12:42 PM
I'm guessing that by shaving down the case head, the primer is not sticking out too far?
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 23, 2021, 10:32:58 PM
I measured that, the primer is still below the case face by .010”.  I was surprised by that, I thought it might be flush or even proud but it wasnt
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: Coal Creek Griff on February 23, 2021, 10:51:12 PM
That was my concern when I read your post. I'm glad that it is working for you.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 27, 2021, 10:19:57 PM
I made up some more brass and went out to the farm for some more shootin.  I posted some videos on youtube and thought y’all might get a kick out of them

https://youtu.be/yaQOY64Bc7o (https://youtu.be/yaQOY64Bc7o)
https://youtu.be/r_mBipHaANU (https://youtu.be/r_mBipHaANU)
https://youtu.be/zDZ1qOw5tX8 (https://youtu.be/zDZ1qOw5tX8)
https://youtu.be/e1qOwXef1Xg (https://youtu.be/e1qOwXef1Xg)
(https://youtu.be/e1qOwXef1Xg)
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: dusty texian on February 28, 2021, 07:30:05 AM
Like your video's Nohorse , that 76 is a Handy Heavy Hitter . I believe your 50-90 Sharps brass will be much easier to form into 50-95 wcf . Just not having to reduce the rim thickness will be a big plus . Thanks for sharing your Video and review .,,,,DT
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 28, 2021, 09:17:13 AM
I love the smile after the shot in the 1st shooting vid, that says it all! I see you have what looks like a Lyman peep sight? what model is that?
I haven't done much of anything with mine, it's cold outside, cold in the reloading room, bad shoulder, and being a 3rd shifter, motivation is slow in coming most days. But it's looking to get warmer soon. I know, excuses excuses wimp excuses.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 28, 2021, 09:17:44 AM
Thanks DT.  All your input made this project a lot easier for me.  All your help is greatly appreciated
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 28, 2021, 09:19:35 AM
Thanks King. I describe the tang sight and mounting it in the non-shooting video.  It is for a Marlin 1895
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: pinto beans on February 28, 2021, 09:21:01 AM
Very nice videos!!  Many thanks for posting and sharing the adventure.  Good luck with the brass and keep us posted..
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 28, 2021, 09:22:54 AM
Thanks PB. I will get back to y’all after I get the new brass where it needs to be.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 28, 2021, 09:40:15 AM
Hey King, the non shooting video also talks about changing the front sight.  It was very easy to do and the new sight was about $15.  I used a slightly taller sight to lower my point of impact on the target.  The original sight was .375” high.  I used a .410” and it lowered the point of impact with the rear sight folded down, to 50 yards.  With the original sight it was between 2-6” high at 50 yards depending on bullet velocity.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on February 28, 2021, 10:01:46 AM
It was a long video, I admit to skipping thru it. I'll watch it again in full later. I pm'ed you.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on February 28, 2021, 11:38:13 AM
King I did not receive a PM.  I just checked my settings and it says OK to receive from anyone...  my profile also allows anyone to email me, so if you need me you can send an email
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on March 01, 2021, 06:20:44 PM
My Starline .50-90 brass came in today, sure is pretty!  Except the case rim thickness runs from .060 - .062 and my bolt will not close on them.  Thats just my luck.  Oh well I guess while they are in the lathe getting the rim diameter reduced I can make another cut across the face to thin out the rims. The more I think about it Maybe Buffalo Arms is reducing the rim thickness when they convert .50-90 to .50-95?  They could do it from the front side and the markings would not be touched?   I was able to shorten and resize 1 piece and I stuffed a tight bullet into the case mouth and chucked it in my 1/2” drill and ran the rim against a file to bring it down to .628 outside diameter. I could then fit it into the rifle after trimming the face on some sand paper. I will prolly be able to try out the new brass in a month or two after I get the cases worked out ::)
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: KenH on March 07, 2021, 09:03:05 AM
If you're going to thin the rim thickness, be sure not to remove enough from the face (headstamp side) so the primers are not recessed when seated.  When making my 40-60 brass from 45-70 Starline I had to remove thickness from the "inside" portion so the primers were not "proud".  I didn't think of that until Slamfire mentioned it to me - smart man Slamfire is.

Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on March 08, 2021, 03:34:09 PM
Thanks KenH I will keep that as a top priority
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on March 25, 2021, 09:21:46 AM
How's it going? Things kinda dried up.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: Slamfire on March 25, 2021, 10:41:57 PM
 Hate it when life get's in the way !! :'(
 
 coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on March 27, 2021, 10:06:49 PM
I finally got to use my friends lathe.  I made 33 pieces of 50-90 converted to 50-95.  It took me about 15 hours just to make the 33 cases.  Dang.  Well I loaded them with 32.0 and 33.0 grains of 5744 with the Barnes 450 jacketed bullet/. I have everything packed up to head to the range in the morning.  If I get decent results at 50 yards with consistent velocities and accuracy, I will switch over to the 200 yard steel plate.  It is about 12 or 14”.  Iwill report back.

King, have you made any ammo or fired your Presidio yet?
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on March 28, 2021, 07:12:32 AM
No,  :-[ I have not. PM'd you yesterday.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on March 28, 2021, 07:37:29 PM
King no PM’s have come in.  I did get out to the range today and tested 32 and 33 grains of 5744.  32=1271 fps and 33=1300 fps.  The 32 seemed to group a little better.  I think I have my load with the jacketed 450 grain bullet
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on March 29, 2021, 04:05:13 PM
I've tried a few times to send you pm's, doesn't seem to be getting through. try sending me one with your email.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on March 29, 2021, 08:17:44 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: greyhawk on April 01, 2021, 05:32:21 AM
test pm sent
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on April 03, 2021, 11:21:42 AM
I am not receiving any pm’s
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: King Medallion on April 03, 2021, 12:13:33 PM
I got one a few days ago and responded.
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: bear tooth billy on April 04, 2021, 09:07:48 AM
I measured several of my Starline 50/90 most are .060, a couple were .062".
They have been shot a few times.



                            BTB
Title: Re: .50-95 die set
Post by: nohorse on April 04, 2021, 10:35:31 PM
My Starline 50-90’s were all .062 - .063.  I had to thin out the rims to .057 and reduce the diameter to .625