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Thanks Slim, I'm watching my granddaughters today, They're on spring break this week.
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Morning y'all.
Coffee and tea are hot.

'Tis 16 and sunny. High of 41.

Slim
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Shotguns / Re: Roper shotgun shells wanted
« Last post by christian1111111 on Yesterday at 11:28:41 PM »
Daryl...I too am looking for 12 gauge Roper shells.  If you decide to have a machinist make several, let me know as I would split the cost. Thanks.  Christian
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The Winchester Model 1892 / Re: Slicking up a Miroku 92?
« Last post by Doc Holloman on Yesterday at 10:23:30 PM »
I've got a Rossi in .45 Colt that I have slicked up (to a degree) myself.  Changing the ejector spring did not eliminate the annoying catch in the last 3/8 inch of bolt closing, but I digress.  I have a another in .357 (my pistol caliber "Long Range" gun) that NKJ slicked himself .

This is what NKJ told me when I asked about swapping the hammer spring:
"The fire control parts for the Rossi is much like the original Winchester 92. The new Miroku Wins are nothing like the original.
If you reduce the hammer spring on the new ones they will probably miss fire.
The Miroku 92 has an inertia style 5-piece firing pin. Even with the hammer setting on it, this firing pin is too short to reach the primers. It requires the heavy rebounding hammer spring to slam it forward for consistent ignition and you will feel that heavy spring when levering the action.
Thanks,
Steve Young aka Nate Kiowa Jones Sass# 6765"

After I received this I found a comment he made on the SASS Wire back in 2017 to the effect that reliably fixing the stiff levering required replacing the hammer, trigger and firing pin, and their associated springs.


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The Winchester Model 1892 / Re: Slicking up a Miroku 92?
« Last post by Doc Holloman on Yesterday at 09:52:20 PM »
Oh I have a short stroked 73 in .357 (Cimarron US Marshall model) that I used to shoot for Cowboy.  I stopped shooting it a year ago when I realized I would never be able to keep up with the folks who have been shooting this for years (I've been at it for 3 years and am a "Silver Senior", which is the most populous category, at least around here) and started shooting Cody Dixon Single Shot in Cowboy Matches.  I can pull the 73 out again (although I have no back-up rifle for it)  but I think what pisses me off is that a rule change has basically made a $1500-2000 rifle pretty much obsolete for my intended purposes (actually maybe two rifles as my .38-40 Taylors 73 is almost just as obsolete.)
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The Winchester Model 1892 / Re: Slicking up a Miroku 92?
« Last post by Rattlesnake Slim on Yesterday at 09:45:25 PM »
I bought a new Winchester/Miroku '92 in .357 a couple of months ago. I immediately ordered Nate Kiowa Jones' DVD and spring kit for the Rossi, knowing that some tweaking of Rossi parts would be necessary.

The first thing that I noticed was that most of the work in the DVD has been done by Miroku. The carrier detent spring was as light as the one in the NKJ kit and the detent ball rides in groves in the receiver, not the cartridge guide like the Rossi. The cartridge follower is stainless, but I had to shorten the spring to get 10 .357 length rounds in the magazine. There was a sharp ledge just opposite where the rounds enter through the gate that had to be smoothed to keep from deforming the bullet nose. The ejector spring was way too strong and the NKJ replacement was a perfect replacement, I added a very little smoothing of the ejector shaft and collar that may or may not have been necessary. Again, the Miroku parts were very nice as is. The bottom of the bolt was already beveled, so all I had to do was a very little polishing. Of course the hammer spring was way too strong, but shorter than the Rossi replacement included in the kit due to the strut being shorter because of the rebounding hammer. If I remember correctly, I shortened the much lighter NKJ spring to a length in between the Miroku and Rossi length.

There is information online about substituting Ruger Vaquero springs of varying strengths, but I found it too late and the cut one seems to be working well. There is also info online about defeating the rebounding hammer. I did it and it worked, but proceed at your own risk and work slowly, replacement Miroku parts are difficult to come by.

That's about all I remember, it went very well. Only a couple of hours or so, and you'll be an expert at '92 assembly and disassembly by the time you're done. No, it's not as fast as the '73, but I'm a '92 lover and will likely sell my '73 to pay for a backup, probably a Rossi.

Shoot what you like, I'm a '92 guy through and through.
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Frontier Iron / Re: Something Wonderful My Way Cometh....
« Last post by Tuolumne Lawman on Yesterday at 08:14:53 PM »
The correct 8" No.3 1st Model in .44 Russian/Special, showed up at the shop today.  Start my 10 day Commiefornia gun jail tomorrow.  Wow, its beautiful!
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Hello I'm trying to gather information on a 1860 Spencer carbine sn#16332 that was passed down in the family. Any idea what state or Reg it could have been issued to? Please help.  :)
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Tall Tales / Re: Cawfee,Tea, Grub while Marching to warmer weather.
« Last post by Johnny McCrae on Yesterday at 05:22:27 PM »
Pork Chops on the grill  from the Amish Market again. INLATION has hit home! My favorite wine from Aldi's has gone up to $3.95 per bottle ($.79 per glass). Used to be $2.95 per bottle ($.59 per glass).  I might have to go back to work. I really shouldn't complain, wine is $7.00 to $8.00 per glass in our local restaurants.
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Tall Tales / Re: Cawfee,Tea, Grub while Marching to warmer weather.
« Last post by Major E A Sterner on Yesterday at 09:52:00 AM »
Thanks slim, another rainy day here,localized flooding has been forecast.Hudson River is at or over flood stage.
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