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Title: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: brudford on June 24, 2020, 04:07:23 PM
I purchased a Uberti Remington 1875 Outlaw imported by Cimarron about 8 weeks ago . While cleaning the gun I noticed a hole in the frame where the loading gate pin is about 1/2" long by 1/4" wide . There is only about 1/32 of metal seperating the loading gate pin hole from the frame . Also the front trigger guard threaded screw hole in the frame you can see the treads pertruding through . If you remove the cylinder and the set spring screw the load gate while slide right out . I'am just wondering if all the Outlaws have this ? Thanks
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: brudford on June 27, 2020, 08:01:54 AM
 Well I guess no one has ever removed their trigger guard and the loading gate retention pin to do a cleaning . After Cimarron had my 1875 Remington pistol for seven weeks and sent it back with the crater hole in the frame next to the loading gate pin hole I called them and they informed me all the 1875's have this jagged crater hole in their Outlaw frames ? This I was told was a manufacturing process ? Hugh..... ? I'am not drinking their coolaide and will take the Outlaw to my local Gunsmith and have the hole braised or welded and send the bill to Uberti not Cimarron . I know I will never see a penny of my money but this is one hell of a quality control issue . Uberti has lost any of my future business . Thanks
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: The Pathfinder on June 27, 2020, 08:59:49 AM
Sorry I took so long Brudford, I have a frame I'm building into a 75, and it matches what you describe. Have also found the same on my other newer Remmies, but haven't pulled apart any of my older ones yet. So yes I believe it is that way as part of the manufacturing process, or at least it is now.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: brudford on June 27, 2020, 04:18:43 PM
 Thanks for responding , so you have a roughed edgeded crater hole right next to the loading gate pin hole with about 1/16" of metal from the frame to the loading gate pin hole ? So how could this not be a defect or safety issue ? It will eventually wear through and could be a safety issues when the loading gate falls out when the pistol is being fired ? Thanks
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: Coffinmaker on June 28, 2020, 05:55:48 PM


Actually, considering the amount of metal, I would seriously doubt you could wear through that sixteenth inch in your lifetime.  Or the lifetime of your dependents.  NOT and issue.  It may well bug you, but at ain't an issue.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: Major 2 on June 28, 2020, 06:30:21 PM
I'd kinda like to see a photo of the offensive crater
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: Pettifogger on July 04, 2020, 07:50:35 PM
Me too.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: Jeremiah Jones on July 04, 2020, 09:40:12 PM
I have an Outlaw and Don't see the offending crater.  I would like to see a picture.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: Slamfire on July 05, 2020, 02:02:00 PM
 Yup ! got my attention ,, pic's.


  coffee's ready ,, Hootmix.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: The Pathfinder on July 06, 2020, 04:20:34 PM
 ;D Ask and ye shall receive. Sorry it took so long, wife went in the hospital for the weekend, she's fine, just concern for her blood pressure. We've got six kids, of course our blood pressures are high.

Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: brudford on August 12, 2020, 06:19:00 PM
 Pathfinder that is the same crater I have in mine . I recieved my pistol back from Cimarron a few weeks ago , of course with no explaination in regard to the hole . I called Cimarron and they spoke to the Gunsmith and that crater is there in all those pistols , " it is a manufacturing thing " Hugh...!!!
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: sack peterson on August 12, 2020, 10:04:51 PM
Mine has that.  I see similar on Cattleman and other makes.

It really is just a function of the blueprint orientation of the internal channel cut and then that cut out for the loading gate boss.  Its not a weak spot, there is enough metal there for things to work the way they need, and for durability.  I have some doubts you could braze in metal and not interfere with proper trigger and hammer travel.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: Abilene on August 12, 2020, 11:17:15 PM
I have seen similar voids/cut-throughs in Lightning/Model P Jr. frames some years back, between one of the gripframe screw holes and the hand channel.  Looked like pretty sloppy workmanship but not visible when assembled and didn't affect function.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: brudford on August 13, 2020, 11:37:52 AM
Now that I think about  it, I had a CVA .44 Cal cap and ball revolver back in the early 1980's. it was a kit gun that I built , the ones made in Spain.  It had several of those craters on the inside of it's frame . What a POS that pistol was , draw your own conclusions ?
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: russ1943 on February 18, 2021, 07:31:01 AM
That is a Uberti defect. I have 1875 Replica Arms in 45 not there, like wise in Navy Arms ,  Replica made not there, both with Post front sites.  In a Uberti Outlaw yes.
Title: Re: Could someone please look at their 1875 Outlaw for me ?
Post by: The Pathfinder on February 19, 2021, 09:01:12 AM
Russ1943, I also have 3 of the early Replica Arms 75's made in 1971/72, I'll try to check them on Sunday and compare them, my 1976 Navy Arms Uberti and my 1997 ASM 75. The picture I posted was from an early 2000's Uberti.