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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: 45-60 Brass length ?
« Last post by wildman1 on Yesterday at 06:12:12 PM »
I in town today and one of my favorite places had a 45-60 Winchester 76. Was in pretty good condition considering the age.
The Longbranch / Re: Hooked on cawboy guns
« Last post by Major 2 on Yesterday at 06:05:57 PM »
I interject here...I have one Modern , just one a SIG 365

And I  have my Cowboy SAA's & S&W #3  and my Cap & Ball's

But I also enjoy , my  early to mid century Milsurp Auto Loaders
Tall Tales / Re: It May be a new month, who knows
« Last post by Major 2 on Yesterday at 05:56:29 PM »
You should , graft a hybrid of your own design and call it  "The Rowdy Rose "
STORM / Re: Uberti '51 Navy .38 problem
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Yesterday at 05:17:43 PM »
 :)  Black River  ;)

Oops.  An Apology.  I thought you were referring to a "Ring" as exhibited by Richards or Richards/Mason at the back of the cylinder.  Hence my "flip" comment.  I now realize you were referring to the "Gas Ring" at the front of an Open Top cylinder.

That "Cylinder Extension" or "Gas Ring" actually served two purposes.  First, it established "End Shake" control, needed in Central Fire cartridge and rim Fire cartridge guns.  Second, It kept most of the "Gun Gas" away from the Arbor.  Helped the guns run longer with BP Cartridges.

Again though . . . . Barrel to Arbor fit is crucial in ALL of the Open Top pattern guns.  In Cap Guns it establishes Barrel to Cylinder gap (no "end shake) in Cap Guns and in the Open Top pattern cartridge guns, it controls End Shake AND Barrel to Cylinder gap.

Stay Safe Out There

PS:  I forgot to mention, if the Barrel to Arbor fit is not correct, an Open Top pattern gun with the Cylinder Extension/Gas ring can Bind the gun up even if the barrel doesn't drag on the Cylinder face.  You need .001/.002 End Shake.  Barrel to Cylinder gap is optimum at .005/.006
1911 & Wild Bunch Shooting / Re: Going to my first Wild Bunch match!
« Last post by Baltimore Ed on Yesterday at 04:50:24 PM »
Good luck TL on your WB match. I’ll eventually get to a big one. You might be able to trim back your mag spring to get 6 rds in it. My usual yell at our club WB matches, however I’ll adjust, ‘Give’em hell, Tuolumne!’ 
Tall Tales / Re: It May be a new month, who knows
« Last post by Delmonico on Yesterday at 04:08:45 PM »
Just planted 5 more roses, may get 8 more.   I'm having fun and it's not wearing me out, digging holes with a trowel is slow though.

1911 & Wild Bunch Shooting / Re: Shotgun
« Last post by Silver Creek Slim on Yesterday at 03:58:47 PM »
The Remington model 10 should be allowed.  ;)

1911 & Wild Bunch Shooting / Re: Going to my first Wild Bunch match!
« Last post by Abilene on Yesterday at 03:46:34 PM »
My Chinese Cimarron '97 held 6 when new.  My IAC '97 and my solid frame 1914 vintage '97 I just cut some of the mag spring, and my 1911 vintage takedown '97 somebody already cut the spring, so they all hold 6. 
The Longbranch / Re: gunoholic
« Last post by Major 2 on Yesterday at 03:46:17 PM »
I cock it first, so as not to have to overcome the hammer spring, then its not bad
STORM / Re: Uberti '51 Navy .38 problem
« Last post by Black River Smith on Yesterday at 03:00:58 PM »
My question to you still stands, as a matter of interest.

All others,
Dave is a firearms person in my opinion.  From his posts he owns 'Originals' - S&W's; Rem Roller's; Sharp's & Spencer's.  He knows his firearms maybe just not replicas.  No offense to you  Dave.

I know your background.  I have been on this board since 2005 and I do respect your helpful hints.  You are right the term used by McDowell was cylinder 'extension' not a ring.  But I knew what I referring too.

I mentioned my problems with my 1872 OT earlier, that it bond up after 2 -3 BP rounds.  Well maybe all the comments posted are the correct fix for this issue in yours and my revolvers.  I thought my barrel fit was correct.  I went and rechecked the barrel to frame fit and my arbor recess 'is too deep'.  I have now inserted 6 - 0.008" pieces of brass shim material.  This brought the barrel right to the front of the frame.  The cylinder 'extension' fits against the barrel with no gapping and the barrel mouth to cylinder gap is a tight 0.006" and a loose 0.005" when seating the wedge.  May want to try this fix, also.  I cannot fire mine immediately to check for affects.
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