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CAS City Classifieds / Re: SOLD and enroute to it's new home
« Last post by Claypipe on Today at 12:30:08 AM »
Claypipe :

Take a deep breath, and relax. Have some coffee.

You would not like me on coffee. 1 cup and I am up for 3 days. And that's decaf.

First, Belgian Centaur Colts are highly sought after in any condition.

ANY CONDITION

It seems to me that Story pretty much described the piece pretty well.
On such a piece, arbor wiggle is pretty darn common and an easy fix.

Riddle me this Prof, if they are so desirable at any price why was it 16 days after it was first listed before I closed the deal on it? Oh, he claimed that there was some low balling tire kicker in the wings. That wasn't you was it?

And Story admitted
>> I'll admit to being a dumbass not noticing the wiggle.

you wrote:
>Some bubba has already attempted to "fix" said problem by drilling and tapping the end of the
>arbor and using a Phillips Screw in an attempt to take out the wiggle. I do not think that
>the threads for the arbor are even there any longer, that is how bad the wiggle is. This
>comes down to either welding up the damage or adding a double threaded bushing to take up
>the space. I am 61, with hands on experience working on guns since I was 15.

You are not correct. Wiggle is common on replicas with age, and one cannot claim the arbor threads
are gone without simple dissassembly and examination as explained by 45 Dragoon, who is a resident
expert here on open tops (which one would know if one followed CAS City forum posts).

45 Dragoon's described repair is also common and will last years.
Welding or brazing or soldering is almost never needed.

As you pointed out you cannot diagnose a repair without first inspecting the gun. I refer you to my findings in my other post.
 
I also find it interesting that even tho you claim to know about C&B revolvers, you think that the
Adjustment screw on the end of the arbor is an attempt to fix arbor wiggle.   
    It is not .   
It is a common, VERY WELL known fix for any Uberti or Belgian Colt C&B which all come from the factory
with an arbor that is too short. They are designed that way. Yes, it sucks. But we all know about it and fix it.

Story offered to take it back, 3 times. And yet you refused.
You seem to be imagining insults and bizarre conspiracies where none exist.

Story has been around damn near forever. Since 2005 . He was in Iraq and came back alive.
We know him from here and from other forums. Story has always had interesting posts.
Never had any reason to fault him or doubt him or his word.

I sincerely thank him for his service. My family was military before they even set foot here in North America back in 1673. I was found medically unfit for service due an abdominal hernia and flat feet. When I took the 3hr test, I finished it in 45 minutes, and was up for OTC.

You signed up in 2010 but we haven't seen much from you, except a LOT of complaining about other people.
including rants over strange conspiracies. And some of your posts ended up in the OutHouse.
Yes, we archive such behaviour.

In fact there was nothing from you between your last rants against Mako and another fellow in 2011
and now, in which you post more rants over percieved (but not factual) insults to you.

I am distressed at your habit of airing PM's (PRIVATE Messages) and emails on a public forum
instead of dealing with issues in a private manner like an adult. You did it in 2011 and again here.
We call that "doxing" and frown on the practice. It is not mature behaviour.

dox
/däks/
verbINFORMAL
gerund or present participle: doxing
search for and publish private or identifying information about (a particular individual) on the internet, typically with malicious intent.
"hackers and online vigilantes routinely dox both public and private figures"

What I posted was communicated to me personally, not dirt that I dug up with malicious intent.

you wrote:
>My opinion is that you felt that I was an easy mark, and attempted to take me.
>You obviously know little about percussion revolvers. So, now you
>thrash about to muddy the waters to hide the fact that you are a scammer.

Doesn't look like that to me.
 

>Now, you want me to return the damage item, for which I will be expected to pay for its return.

It was advertised as in poor condition already, and the return terms are common.

it only costs about $7 in a USPS box, which includes tracking numbers.
I know cuz I do it several times a month.

Really, you must get a good discount. Small Flat Rate Box $7.90 Commercial Base $8.45 at Post Office & Online. And is too small to hold a Belgian Pony properly.

>Yes, I have a return address, but is it truly your address, or an abandon building? You get the
>item back and use it for another project. I see no refund, while you shout I sent it to
>him. And you come out on top. Sounds crazy, check with the US Postal Inspectors see what
>they have to say.
 
Are you perhaps off your meds?

Seriously, That sounds like the rant of a conspiracy fanatic.

If you are actually concerned about "a real address"  I would actually be willing ( but not happy )
 to act as a 3rd party and verify the address for you, if it would ease your mind, and facillitate a
more harmonious outcome...

I will refer you to the USPS Postal Inspectors to confirm that.

> Now, I offer you an alternative, discount the sale another $50, which still won't cover the
> cost of repairs, and we both walk away unhappy.

Story should Send you $50 back? on top of a further discounted price?
With vieled threats on a public forum? Now who is the scammer?

Frankly I could do the fix for $5 to $10 max.

I manage to obtain a proper arbor for $22.00, but I did see others sans shipping for $35usd. Then there's the trip to the local machine shop to mill out the wedge hole at $30phr.

If you have the experience you claim, you could follow 45 Dragoons advice and do it yourself
if less than an hour. Two hours if your are hamhanded. ( But its not so easy if one is crippled up
with arthritis).

You demanding $50 ransom is outrageous.
I've done this fix many many times in the past.
I am doing it now on another frame I got.
Rifle and 45 Dragoon and dozens of others here have done it for years.

If you read the posts on CAS City at all you would know who Rifle is.
You would also know who 45 Dragoon is.
You would have seen the many prior posts on this fix.
You would also have known what an upright citizen Mako is before you dumped on him in 2011.
 
SO
I suggest you work this out OFFLINE with Story, as he has offered.

or drop it.

I really dont care which, but grow up and work it out off the forum like an a calm ADULT .

Free Advice:
If one is so worried about returning it, just document the whole thing in
calm, reasonable and Adult manner, archived emails and via paper letters in the package to Story
as tho it were a contract . keep copies, hell send a copy of the letter you are sending to Story
to yourself by mail so it is dated. use tracking numbers.
 
When he gets it back, INTACT, Story can send a USPS money order with a tracking number.

If one were to write it up as described, one wants to write it factually and impartially
without insults or inuendo or any rant as tho one were already taking it court, in such a manner
as to not insult the judge or make oneself look like an idiot. If it comes to it, In these cases it really
pays to have a disinterested 3rd party read it over and advise. One does not want to look
like the idiots going on TV court.

As I said earlier if you are concerned about Story's address, I would actually be willing
( but not happy ) to act as a disinterested 3rd party and verify the adress for you, if it
would ease your mind, and facillitate a more harmonious outcome...

Then You guys keep each other posted, and exchange tracking numbers.
you are only out $7 shipping which is fair for a return after inspection.

Easy Peasy.

If Story doesnt follow thru (and I fully expect him to follow thru) then file a claim with USPS,
the USPS Postal Police, and file a claim in court. That is when the documentation would be needed.

How do I know? I've done it before. Never had to follow through any further than notifying USPS
(and only once).

Bottom line -

1) demanding a $50 refund on top of the reduced price ON THE OPEN FORUM is gypsy extortion.

2) I dont want to see any more s&*t about this on the forum

3) If you do send it back to Story I will buy it from HIM. Belgain Centaurs are that desireable.

BTW, Claypipe,
Take a deep breath, and relax. This is not worth a heart attack or stroke.
Have some coffee and antacid, or your valium (or whatever) if needed.
skip the Jack Daniels.

JD? do you drink that swill? Bullet Rye, Yukon Jack, Southern Comfort, Sazerac Rye and most Irish whiskey. I'm sure there are others that would love to see me on mind altering drugs. The only thing that I am addicted to is Coke...a Cola. My anatomy precludes me from addiction to most pharmaceuticals. Found that out in 1980, when I was killed on the operating table after four shots of demerol and two of sodium pentothal. I was in recovery for 24 hours, after 6 hours of surgery. I flushed a bottle of percocet when I realized I was starting to like them. I watch two people I knew die of valium overdoses. All I am in need of is honesty.

you have two forum moderators particiating in this thread already and more watching it.
Be mindful of what you post next.

Prof Marvel

Good to know and glad to hear it.

Getting down to brass tacks, he failed to expose all the defects, then attempted to fluff it off. And I challenge you to unveil these "thinly veiled threats".
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CAS City Classifieds / Re: SOLD and enroute to it's new home
« Last post by Claypipe on Yesterday at 10:35:59 PM »
Professor feel free to read my mind. Opinions are like underwear, most people have them, and like underwear many are full of fecal matter.

I tore down the Belgian Pony today. I discovered that the arbor had already been replaced with an Italian replacement. Threaded end being too small Uncle Bubba attempted to swell the threaded end first with a small cold chisel. When that failed to do the trick Uncle Bubba turn to center punch with a square tip. When all that failed, Uncle Bubba fired up his propane torch and attempted to silver solder the arbor in place.

A shovel is a shovel. And a spade is a spade. And I know the difference between these earth moving implements.

As for Mako, he made the mistake of telling me what my life was like when I was growing up. Sorry, I never saw him at our dinner table when I was growing up.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: 180 Grain 45
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Yesterday at 10:22:30 PM »
Greetings my good Monsieur Burrows

What brass you do have at hand for this endeavour? .45 Colt, .45 Schofield, or the shorty .45 Cowboy?
Since you use smokeless, I myself am preferring to use .45 CB and use existing recipes for Unique in .45 ACP since they are the same case volume and use similar if not identical lead bullets.

The recipes for unique and 185 grain lead semiwad target loads would be ideal in this case.
Please stand by whilst iget my books and notes...

I have been trying to use thecavernous .45 Colt case for  BP or subs only, and .45 Schofiled and .45 Cowboy brass for smokeless. It helps  keep them separated and easier to ID as my eyes age...

The only reason for Schofiield in my mind is that they cycle in my yellowboy without modification of the rifle.

I fully expect others to chime in before I can find my books,

Yhs
Prof marvel





For Scho

So far I have always used the 45 Colt cases. I have starling brass mostly but have not tried the Schofield or the Cowboy cases but that’s something to look into also I suppose. I was not sure of an advantage of going with the shorter cases. It’s just not something that I have researched much at this point. Guess I need to.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: 180 Grain 45
« Last post by Professor Marvel on Yesterday at 10:10:18 PM »
Greetings my good Monsieur Burrows

What brass you do have at hand for this endeavour? .45 Colt, .45 Schofield, or the shorty .45 Cowboy?
Since you use smokeless, I myself am preferring to use .45 CB and use existing recipes for Unique in .45 ACP since they are the same case volume and use similar if not identical lead bullets.

The recipes for unique and 185 grain lead semiwad target loads would be ideal in this case.
Please stand by whilst iget my books and notes...

I have been trying to use thecavernous .45 Colt case for  BP or subs only, and .45 Schofiled and .45 Cowboy brass for smokeless. It helps  keep them separated and easier to ID as my eyes age...

The only reason for Schofiield in my mind is that they cycle in my yellowboy without modification of the rifle.

I fully expect others to chime in before I can find my books,

Yhs
Prof marvel





For Scho
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / 180 Grain 45
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Yesterday at 09:54:49 PM »
I recently won a box of bullets (Thanks Coyote Mercantile).  I normally shoot 200g RNFP but all he had in stock in 45 was 180g bullets. won’t complain about free bullets and it’s a chance to try something new. Also first time trying trying powder coated bullets.

I have a new (to me) pair of 1871-72 Open Tops coming with 5.5” barrels so I figured I’d try a load for these.

On hand I have Trailboss, Unique and Bullyeye.

Anyone load for a 180g 45 bullet on here? If so what kind of loads are you liking ?

Thanks in advance 
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CAS City Classifieds / Re: SOLD and enroute to it's new home
« Last post by Professor Marvel on Yesterday at 09:22:28 PM »
Claypipe :

Take a deep breath, and relax. Have some coffee.

First, Belgian Centaur Colts are highly sought after in any condition.

ANY CONDITION

It seems to me that Story pretty much described the piece pretty well.
On such a piece, arbor wiggle is pretty darn common and an easy fix.

And Story admitted
>> I'll admit to being a dumbass not noticing the wiggle.

you wrote:
>Some bubba has already attempted to "fix" said problem by drilling and tapping the end of the
>arbor and using a Phillips Screw in an attempt to take out the wiggle. I do not think that
>the threads for the arbor are even there any longer, that is how bad the wiggle is. This
>comes down to either welding up the damage or adding a double threaded bushing to take up
>the space. I am 61, with hands on experience working on guns since I was 15.

You are not correct. Wiggle is common on replicas with age, and one cannot claim the arbor threads
are gone without simple dissassembly and examination as explained by 45 Dragoon, who is a resident
expert here on open tops (which one would know if one followed CAS City forum posts).

45 Dragoon's described repair is also common and will last years.
Welding or brazing or soldering is almost never needed.

I also find it interesting that even tho you claim to know about C&B revolvers, you think that the
Adjustment screw on the end of the arbor is an attempt to fix arbor wiggle.   
    It is not .   
It is a common, VERY WELL known fix for any Uberti or Belgian Colt C&B which all come from the factory
with an arbor that is too short. They are designed that way. Yes, it sucks. But we all know about it and fix it.

Story offered to take it back, 3 times. And yet you refused.
You seem to be imagining insults and bizarre conspiracies where none exist.

Story has been around damn near forever. Since 2005 . He was in Iraq and came back alive.
We know him from here and from other forums. Story has always had interesting posts.
Never had any reason to fault him or doubt him or his word.

You signed up in 2010 but we haven't seen much from you, except a LOT of complaining about other people.
including rants over strange conspiracies. And some of your posts ended up in the OutHouse.
Yes, we archive such behaviour.

In fact there was nothing from you between your last rants against Mako and another fellow in 2011
and now, in which you post more rants over percieved (but not factual) insults to you.

I am distressed at your habit of airing PM's (PRIVATE Messages) and emails on a public forum
instead of dealing with issues in a private manner like an adult. You did it in 2011 and again here.
We call that "doxing" and frown on the practice. It is not mature behaviour.


you wrote:
>My opinion is that you felt that I was an easy mark, and attempted to take me.
>You obviously know little about percussion revolvers. So, now you
>thrash about to muddy the waters to hide the fact that you are a scammer.

Doesn't look like that to me.
 

>Now, you want me to return the damage item, for which I will be expected to pay for its return.

It was advertised as in poor condition already, and the return terms are common.

it only costs about $7 in a USPS box, which includes tracking numbers.
I know cuz I do it several times a month.


>Yes, I have a return address, but is it truly your address, or an abandon building? You get the
>item back and use it for another project. I see no refund, while you shout I sent it to
>him. And you come out on top. Sounds crazy, check with the US Postal Inspectors see what
>they have to say.
 
Are you perhaps off your meds?

Seriously, That sounds like the rant of a conspiracy fanatic.

If you are actually concerned about "a real address"  I would actually be willing ( but not happy )
 to act as a 3rd party and verify the address for you, if it would ease your mind, and facillitate a
more harmonious outcome...


> Now, I offer you an alternative, discount the sale another $50, which still won't cover the
> cost of repairs, and we both walk away unhappy.

Story should Send you $50 back? on top of a further discounted price?
With vieled threats on a public forum? Now who is the scammer?

Frankly I could do the fix for $5 to $10 max.

If you have the experience you claim, you could follow 45 Dragoons advice and do it yourself
if less than an hour. Two hours if your are hamhanded. ( But its not so easy if one is crippled up
with arthritis).

You demanding $50 ransom is outrageous.
I've done this fix many many times in the past.
I am doing it now on another frame I got.
Rifle and 45 Dragoon and dozens of others here have done it for years.

If you read the posts on CAS City at all you would know who Rifle is.
You would also know who 45 Dragoon is.
You would have seen the many prior posts on this fix.
You would also have known what an upright citizen Mako is before you dumped on him in 2011.
 
SO
I suggest you work this out OFFLINE with Story, as he has offered.

or drop it.

I really dont care which, but grow up and work it out off the forum like an a calm ADULT .

Free Advice:
If one is so worried about returning it, just document the whole thing in
calm, reasonable and Adult manner, archived emails and via paper letters in the package to Story
as tho it were a contract . keep copies, hell send a copy of the letter you are sending to Story
to yourself by mail so it is dated. use tracking numbers.
 
When he gets it back, INTACT, Story can send a USPS money order with a tracking number.

If one were to write it up as described, one wants to write it factually and impartially
without insults or inuendo or any rant as tho one were already taking it court, in such a manner
as to not insult the judge or make oneself look like an idiot. If it comes to it, In these cases it really
pays to have a disinterested 3rd party read it over and advise. One does not want to look
like the idiots going on TV court.

As I said earlier if you are concerned about Story's address, I would actually be willing
( but not happy ) to act as a disinterested 3rd party and verify the adress for you, if it
would ease your mind, and facillitate a more harmonious outcome...

Then You guys keep each other posted, and exchange tracking numbers.
you are only out $7 shipping which is fair for a return after inspection.

Easy Peasy.

If Story doesnt follow thru (and I fully expect him to follow thru) then file a claim with USPS,
the USPS Postal Police, and file a claim in court. That is when the documentation would be needed.

How do I know? I've done it before. Never had to follow through any further than notifying USPS
(and only once).

Bottom line -

1) demanding a $50 refund on top of the reduced price ON THE OPEN FORUM is gypsy extortion.

2) I dont want to see any more s&*t about this on the forum

3) If you do send it back to Story I will buy it from HIM. Belgain Centaurs are that desireable.

BTW, Claypipe,
Take a deep breath, and relax. This is not worth a heart attack or stroke.
Have some coffee and antacid, or your valium (or whatever) if needed.
skip the Jack Daniels.

you have two forum moderators particiating in this thread already and more watching it.
Be mindful of what you post next.

Prof Marvel
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NCOWS / Re: Latest acquisition
« Last post by Professor Marvel on Yesterday at 06:51:15 PM »
As Black River Smith pointed out, the lack of ejector thingy on the frame would Highly Suggest a manufacuted sheriff model!

this link, courtesy Rusty Edwards has a plethora of interesting poop

www.swshana.com/gun_website/Colt_SAA_SNs.pdf

Rusty discusses it here
https://www.coltforum.com/threads/1st-generation-colt-saa-serial-numbers-1873-1940.296378/


If one plugs in their Ser No into Colt's wwebsite here
https://www.colt.com/serial-lookup

one can get some basic info for free. It was good for finding the info on my Grandfathers  Colt .32 acp

Hope this helps
prof Marvel
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Tall Tales / Re: New month, no lie, it's July
« Last post by Delmonico on Yesterday at 06:20:37 PM »
One oz of copper platted lead BB size aka 50 pellets will make a nasty close range for 28 Gauge.  Still a dozen or so in a drawer at the farm, marked BB on shell with Sharpie.  I always called them Baby Buckshot. ;D


Still some young good ones out there if you search for them.





On Hiatus right now, rumor is lead singer song writer is drying out.
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The Longbranch / Re: gunoholic
« Last post by Professor Marvel on Yesterday at 06:16:19 PM »
Like shooting tiny lipsticks....
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NCOWS / Re: Latest acquisition
« Last post by Professor Marvel on Yesterday at 06:14:09 PM »
My Good Dusty

I am a cheap sort, and I have successfully squared crowns on C&B barrels using a manual Lee Case cutter and bushing out the mandrel. They come out quite nicely and shoot well.

IMPORTANT!
if one chooses this route, one MUST bush out the pilot with something soft like brass or etc...


https://leeprecision.com/cutter-lock-stud.html

Please stand by regarding info on the serial of your pistol... I will see if my Google Fu turns up anything useful for you.

Yhs
Prof marvel
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