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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2020, 06:51:43 PM »
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2020, 07:45:39 PM »
For a $ 95 difference, I'd go with the original to go with my "66 Trapdoor.

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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine? Relisted.
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2020, 09:14:09 AM »
An Original  https://www.gunbroker.com/item/880602867

Hey Drydock, that picture of the Bore looks funny.  Is it a Hexagonal or something?  The lands and grooves are the same width, never seen that before that I remember.

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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2020, 11:28:56 AM »
That is the Springfield 3 groove barrel.  All Springfield produced barrels and liners from 1866 to 1891 used this style of rifling.  I believe it dates back to the 1855 Musket.  Look down the barrel of any original trapdoor and you will see this type of rifling.  The 1868 Sharps conversions used Springfield supplied liners in any barrel over .522

New Pedersoli Trapdoors use this rifling as well.  The H&R variants did not.
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2020, 03:17:17 PM »
.50-70 carbines are VERY cool!  I built an 1870 Trapdoor Carbine from a rifle, and I can see why all the originals you see (very few) are used up.  Great little rifles!
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2020, 03:30:40 PM »
A small number of these original Sharps cartridge conversion carbines were retained by the cavalry following issue of the M1873 Trapdoor Springfields in .45-70. The retained Sharps were issued to some of the civilian employees of the QM Dept. for use when the employees accompanied the troops in the field. Most of those civilians were teamsters or packers. At least one accompanied the Big Horn & Yellowstone Expedition of 1876, the column commanded by BGen George Crook. Likely this young lad, a teamster, stayed with the wagon train at Camp Cloud Peak, where Sheridan, WY, is now, although it is possible he went along and was involved in the Rosebud Battle, 17 June 1976.
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2020, 10:05:57 PM »
1874? It is an 1859 conversion, converted in late 1860s,
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine? Relisted.
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 04:38:57 PM »
Shiloh relisted
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Re: Looking for a .50-70 Carbine? Relisted.
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 06:21:39 AM »
The same seller has a split breech roller at a pretty good price too.
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