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Tall Tales / Re: It May be a new month, who knows
« Last post by Major 2 on May 11, 2021, 08:04:42 AM »
Off to the dentist in while, post extraction follow-up...

  In other news , I got my copy of GOTOW apparently Dennis Adler has stepped away.
He has moved on to write for Pyramyd Air    “Airgun Experience”  blog.
I have his Metallic Cartridge Conversion book , and I think Porsche: The Classic Era somewhere
The photography is first rate.
I met him at the 2009 Shot Show in Orlando , he was hyping his book Winchester Shotguns ( I didn't spring for a copy though )
The Barracks / Re: The great naval "What If"
« Last post by S. Quentin Quale, Esq. on May 11, 2021, 07:38:27 AM »
I suspect the result would have been the destruction of Nagumo's force and a very extensive American casualty list (ships, aircraft, and men).

The Tin Can Sailors, in an amazing act of courage and resolve, took on a force that was orders of magnitude more powerful.  No war gamer of the time would have given then any chance at all of success.  But they were incredibly successful in their mission, protecting the landing force.  Their aggression and resolve so un-nerved Nagumo that he made a critical error (ordered a confusing course change for his force) which caused a complete loss of cohesion and command.  The confusion caused him to think he was dealing with a MUCH more powerful force than he was and he lost his resolve.  He ordered a general retirement. 

Interestingly, he was also the commander of the Pearl Harbor attack force and he did the same thing when he retired vice launching a third strike.  Had he done so he would have caused massive damage to the infrastructure at Pearl (dry docks, piers, POL storage, warehouses, etc.).  This would have made recovery from the damage suffered at Coral Sea impossible to repair meaning the Battle of Midway might never have occurred but if it did we would have had the really short end of the stick.

Our losses of Samar were large, in ships and men, but we could afford them.  And the mission they had was successful.

It's well to remember the crews of light carriers in all of this.  While under fire from Japanese heavy units they continued to launch and recover aircraft who attacked the Japanese units with light bombs and rockets and strafing attacks because they had no torpedoes or armor piercing bombs.  The job of the aircraft on those ships was ground support of the troops ashore and anti-ship weapons were not foremost in their inventory.  Two were sunk (GAMBIER BAY and ST. LO).  I don't know the number of aircraft lost.

It was an amazing event.  The crews of the U.S. vessels acted in the highest and best traditions of the U.S. Navy.

Tall Tales / Re: It May be a new month, who knows
« Last post by Silver Creek Slim on May 11, 2021, 07:17:36 AM »
Morning y'all.
Coffee and tea are hot.

'Tis 29 and sunny. High of 59.

Books & Movies / Re: The Dentist on YouTube
« Last post by MsIbuki on May 11, 2021, 07:15:36 AM »
The moment when he's pulling his tooth out is awesome. Reminds me of my dentist. Lol.
The Leather Shop / Re: HAPPY MOTHERS DAY
« Last post by Major 2 on May 11, 2021, 06:37:36 AM »
Mom , crossed over 30 years ago... today  :'(   not a day goes by I don't think of her.
The Barracks / Re: The great naval "What If"
« Last post by ndnchf on May 11, 2021, 05:56:42 AM »
A whole lot of "What ifs" here.  One of my favorite books is called "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors". It is an incredible story of the Battle off Samar, and one that as a retired navy man, tears at my heart.
Tall Tales / Re: It May be a new month, who knows
« Last post by Major E A Sterner on May 10, 2021, 11:00:21 PM »
I'll bank the fire for the Nighthawks, Y'all have a good evening.
The Leather Shop / Re: HAPPY MOTHERS DAY
« Last post by Russ T Chambers on May 10, 2021, 10:20:58 PM »
All cats are opportunists.

So are dogs (I've had several).  They are just as as good at letting you know they want some too.  They both just sit at your feet and stare at you longingly.  Dogs just add butt wiggles and seismic level tail wags for emphasis! ;D ;D ;D
The Barracks / Re: Want to trade
« Last post by Drydock on May 10, 2021, 08:23:09 PM »
Ahoy there!
The Barracks / Re: Want to trade
« Last post by Dusty Tagalon on May 10, 2021, 08:15:56 PM »
Bringing a couple of Mauser’s, 1895 Chilean & a Yugo 48, & a couple 1892 series Colts.
Will also stop by at Patriot Distillery in La Vista, & pick up a couple bottles. Leaning towards a “Rye & Navy Rum”.
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