Lets do some looking at outfits

Started by Delmonico, January 30, 2009, 06:12:55 PM

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Lone Gunman

Evolution of a Gunman



This was taken in the doorway of the bunkhouse at Rock Creek Station in 2005.

The character to the left is a little younger and should probably be called the Lone Greenhorn instead.
George "Lone Gunman" Warnick

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More great pics.

Scarlett, That looks so right. You could have had that taken a good hundred years ago.

Del, what a great picture. I love it. The kids's outfits are outstanding.

Lone Gunman, I really like that one. Your half-flap holster sure solidifies the look.

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Professor Marvel

Ottawa Creek Bill -

Gads, Sir- The detail you have put into your outfits is most impressive. I felt that your profile photo looked familiar, now we find that you worked LOTM, as well as other films. 

If I might prevail upon your historical expertise, I would like to ask about "ribbon shirts".

A family friend, Grandma Neva Standing Bear (Rosebud Lakota) taught my wife to make Ribbon Shirts so that I would look goooood when we accompanied the Standing Bears to powows and ceremony. Can you tell me at what time period they first appeared, and when historically  a Ribbon Shirt would be appropriate wear (ie: special events, powow, etc)? 

>I wish more folks would try to look like they've worn their clothes for a good length of time, especially the male gender.

That's a very valid point, perhaps it's an emotional issue. I don't get much opportunity to wear my outfits, and I find it's difficult to take clothing you just spent days or weeks constructing and go roll around in the dirt :-)

yhs
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Delmonico

Thanks George, great picture.  BTW if I remember right you got killed at Rock Creek Station that day. ;D
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Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

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The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Ottawa Creek Bill

Professor Marvel....

Appreciate the comments...............
Ribbon shirts are a 20th century Pow-Wow dance item, as are straight dance shirts.

I know what you mean about getting your clothes dirty...but you gotta do what you gotta do to make them look correct.

If you've ever watched the movie Tombstone, and have watched the extras with the directors commentary, one thing that struck me is that of all the things he would have done different in that film, is, he would have gotten the fella riding shotgun on the stagecoach clothes dirtier....his comment was he looked too clean compared to the rest of the actors. Trivial, but something he thought took away from the quality of the overall film.

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Professor Marvel

Quote from: Ottawa Creek Bill on February 22, 2009, 12:57:12 PM
Ribbon shirts are a 20th century Pow-Wow dance item, as are straight dance shirts.
Thank You sir, I appreciate the information!

Quote from: Ottawa Creek Bill on February 22, 2009, 12:57:12 PM
I know what you mean about getting your clothes dirty...but you gotta do what you gotta do to make them look correct.

If you've ever watched the movie Tombstone, and have watched the extras with the directors commentary, one thing that struck me is that of all the things he would have done different in that film, is, he would have gotten the fella riding shotgun on the stagecoach clothes dirtier....his comment was he looked too clean compared to the rest of the actors. Trivial, but something he thought took away from the quality of the overall film.

Well sir, You have opened my eyes - I finally took steps in that direction today - I wore a new white mexican shirt  and new white canvas button fly trousers to a shoot and make a conscious effort to wipe my hands on both whilst loading and cleaning my C&B revolvers.  It was at first an effort to break "gentlemanly habits", but it certainly is taking the "new shine" off. I shall continue this experiment in properly aging this outfit by wearing it whilst doing outside chores.  A little breakfast grease, a little more dirt, some lunch gravy, more BP fouling and they should be on the right path :-)
Could perhaps frequent washing without detergent will help accelerate aging?

yhs
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Daniel Nighteyes

OCB,

That last pic -- M1 or M2?  Given the year, I probably know why you're holding it.


Ottawa Creek Bill

Professor.....
If you want to put a little Age on that new clothing without rolling around in the dirt.....add about a table spoon of walnut dye (made from walnuts) to a couple gallons of water over night...then rinse in cold water.

This will knock off the new look and give it an aged look. Before you do this experiment with a material close to what you are wearing.

You want to pre wet your shirt, let it dry so it is damp and then dye it.


Daniel......That is a M2 that I took off a dead Viet Cong.

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Irish Dave



Here's a tintype of Beth and I taken at last year's NCOWS Convention. (It's reversed, of course).

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Delmonico

Looks good Dave,  BTW I would not roll those outfits in the dirt. ;)

A good example of more of a business look.
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Always get the water for the coffee upstream from the herd.

Ab Ovo Usque ad Mala

The time has passed so quick, the years all run together now.

Ottawa Creek Bill

Quote from: Delmonico on February 24, 2009, 05:16:50 PM
Looks good Dave,  BTW I would not roll those outfits in the dirt. ;)

A good example of more of a business look.

Del........
Dave has already volunteered to do just that (get his clothes dirty!) for our shootout video at the National Shoot. ;)

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Irish Dave




Gettin' my clothes dirty doesn't really present a problem for me.....but I guarantee Miss Beth ain't gonna roll this (self-sewn) outfit in the dirt.  Ain't gonna happen. ;)


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Leo Tanner

Tangent, but this reminds me of when I rode motorcycles.  Guys would buy a new jacket and ask me how I got mine to look the way it did.  The only true answer was "I wore it".  Nobody could have falsley made it look the way it does.  Mighta come close, but folks could just tell that it had seen some real miles.
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Scarlet Angel

I have a white blouse I've used while mounted shooting (i.e. being around the horse) ..stains from all kindsa things...If ya'll are patient next time we have a shoot that's warm enough to wear it I'll let someone snap a picture......will it be ok if I am holding a modern day bottled beverage?  ;D Usually I avoid film when I look trail worn  :D
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Leo Tanner

Think you were wearin it in perty good right here.  Had a better dust shot, but it was out of frame cause the camera was too slow.



"When you have to shoot, shoot.  Don't talk."
     Tuco--The Good the Bad and the Ugly

"First comes smiles, then lies.  Last is gunfire."
     Roland Deschain

"Every man steps in the manure now an again, trick is not ta stick yer foot in yer mouth afterward"

religio SENIOR est exordium of scientia : tamen fossor contemno sapientia quod instruction.

Ottawa Creek Bill

Quote from: Scarlet Angel on February 25, 2009, 03:08:29 PM
I have a white blouse I've used while mounted shooting (i.e. being around the horse) ..stains from all kindsa things...If ya'll are patient next time we have a shoot that's warm enough to wear it I'll let someone snap a picture......will it be ok if I am holding a modern day bottled beverage?  ;D Usually I avoid film when I look trail worn  :D

Scarlet......Put it in a tin cup.

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Member, Ottawa-Chippewa Band of Indians of Michigan
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NCOWS # 2140
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Dr. Bob

Scarlet.

I think that we can manage a pic with a brewski bottle in it.  A ice cold glass mug would be PC too, but don't put yourself for us! ;D
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Scarlet Angel

LOL...Dr. Bob..I like the idea of a glass mug, but don't often carry one campin....I could come up with a flask though  ;)  I might be able to come up with a tin cup someplace. :)


Thanks Leo
"The Scarlet Angel, heaven and hell all rolled into one.... I'd hate to be the one on the hell side." ~Patches McDuff

"Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway." John Wayne

"Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth."  Mark Twain


Ottawa Creek Bill

Quote from: Scarlet Angel on February 26, 2009, 10:28:54 PM
LOL...Dr. Bob..I like the idea of a glass mug, but don't often carry one campin....I could come up with a flask though  ;)  I might be able to come up with a tin cup someplace. :)


Thanks Leo

And Scarlet......I've got just the beverage to put in that tin cup.

Bill
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Vice Chairman Inter tribal Council of Indiana
Member, Ottawa-Chippewa Band of Indians of Michigan
SASS # 2434
NCOWS # 2140
CMSA # 3119
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Scarlet Angel

Quote from: Ottawa Creek Bill on February 27, 2009, 12:57:20 PM
And Scarlet......I've got just the beverage to put in that tin cup.

Bill

I used to think I was the one that corrupted folks by handing them something and saying "try this" Oh so wrong...I don't hold a candle to some of my cowboy/cowgirl pards.  ;D

I came across this picture.

I think I have some pretty good stuff here. The racoon bag (holds all kinds of goodies) I got at EOT one yr Tanned hide, leather lining. The skirt that used to be a brides maids dress...Mom tore it apart and we made something useful out of it...It has leather stains, horse stains and some tears in the hem it's hard to tell but it's faded too. The knife was made by LongLine Charlie. I love his work! That guy next to me I think he fills the bill of PC...he had shot all day too so I'm pretty sure his clothes were well used that day  ;) That's Tensleep for those of you that may be wondering.

"The Scarlet Angel, heaven and hell all rolled into one.... I'd hate to be the one on the hell side." ~Patches McDuff

"Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway." John Wayne

"Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth."  Mark Twain


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