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Title: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on December 29, 2011, 05:58:45 PM
The GAF really appeals to me. The Illinois Muster is in October, the Department of the Missouri Muster is in July, and the Grand Muster is also in October. The last two are quite a distance from Chicagoland as well. I wondered if there is any way to do more GAF shooting? Is there such thing as a Local match? I want to do more. The Illinois Muster was the most fun I had all year last year!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on December 29, 2011, 06:44:09 PM
Usually if you want to get a local muster started, you'll have to find some like-minded individuals to shoot with you.  Fortunately, we've become pretty much a cowboy-friendly GAF club here.  If nothing else, see if your local club will work with you and let you shoot your GAF guns in their regular matches.  It's a good way to drum up some interest in what we do as well.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on December 29, 2011, 07:31:23 PM
What Dale said +1.

We are looking to get a presence in every state. Fortunately for you Illinois has a Division Muster. 

I realize that it is some distance to Nebraska from where you are but you won't be disapointed if you make the trip. Another option is to carpool.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Drydock on December 29, 2011, 08:31:53 PM
Find the nearest SASS/NCOWs club.  I believe Illinois has a fair number of SASS clubs, you can go to SASSwire.com and find them.

Call the club officer/Territorial Govenor.  Tell him what you want to do, ask if it would be all right to demonstrate and shoot your GAF weapons with them.  I've yet to have one tell me no.  Go and Shoot, take some flyers with you.  Most every SASS/NCOWs member is a gun wonk, and love to see different things on the line.  Have fun with it.  Tell them your practicing for the State/Department/Grand Muster.  Describe these when they ask.

Get in Touch with your fellow GAF members in IL.  Get an e-mail ring going, have dinner together sometime, set up a sharpshooter match.  Get together to shoot the Postal course.

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Shamrock on December 29, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
Doug,
Give me a call tomorrow and we can talk.
(H) 815-206-3534
(C) 217-722-8512
Regards,
Pat "Shamrock" Gannon
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on December 29, 2011, 09:14:32 PM
Will do,

I'm headed up to Bristol to shoot a Martini-Henry tomorrow. I will call you either before or after.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: pony express on December 29, 2011, 10:39:10 PM
Still kind of far away, but I believe Iowa usually has a GAF Muster late spring-early summer.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on December 29, 2011, 10:58:16 PM
Of course it depends on where in Iowa but I went to school there so the trip would be familiar.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on December 30, 2011, 08:42:44 AM
I agree with Jerry, you should make the Muster at his place, I doubt there is very many ranges as neat as his.  Also if you drive a little low slung car we'll be glad to ferry your gear up.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/DMM2010210.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0329.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0419.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/fp4.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/DMM2010192.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/DMM2010176.jpg)

Besides that there are few dang lights out in that country, the stars at night are worth the trip.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: pony express on December 30, 2011, 09:01:43 AM
Agree on the Muster at Pitsptr's place!The "Skirmish" format is nothing like a standard CAS stage, LOTS of movement! And the place is beautiful, too! Delmonico's pics are good, but they tend to "flatten" the terrain some, it's actually MORE steep and hilly than it appears in the pics.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on December 30, 2011, 11:03:54 AM
That looks awesome but my gear woudl have to be ferried in. I doubt my little low slung car would make it.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on December 30, 2011, 11:16:38 AM
OK, how about the road out:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/fp3.jpg)

Or in, what ever the case may be. ;D

I always use low gear when leaving in case the brakes fail, that turn at the bottom would be nasty to miss. :o
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Drydock on December 30, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
I drove my Challenger up to Jerrys last year, parked down at the farm house, they let me use their utility vehicle to haul my stuff up the hill.  Great fun, and a match experience unequalled anywhere!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: pony express on December 30, 2011, 08:13:14 PM
OK, how about the road out:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/fp3.jpg)

Or in, what ever the case may be. ;D

I always use low gear when leaving in case the brakes fail, that turn at the bottom would be nasty to miss. :o
That part of the road isn't the problem....it's the part you have to cross BEFORE you get there. Our Trailblazer had no problems. Didn't Dalton Masterson go up in a PT Cruiser?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on December 30, 2011, 08:59:08 PM
I was talking with Col. Shamrock today and we are considering coming out to the dept Muster. I hope his vehicle has higher ground clearance than my Acura. It struggles getting out to the Dry Gulch Ranch where we shoot and it is only a few hundred yards off the road.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Capt.Virgil Russo on December 30, 2011, 09:25:05 PM
What Dale said +1.

We are looking to get a presence in every state. Fortunately for you Illinois has a Division Muster. 

I realize that it is some distance to Nebraska from where you are but you won't be disapointed if you make the trip. Another option is to carpool.

Roughly 23 hours from Philadelphia to Sargent but I'm working on it. Gotta see if any of my Department of The Atlantic brethern are up for the trip.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on December 31, 2011, 07:07:51 AM
Gotta see if any of my Department of The Atlantic brethern are up for the trip.

Check with Charles Isaac. I know he's considering the trip and he was at the 2009 Grand Muster in Ord.

Our Trailblazer had no problems. Didn't Dalton Masterson go up in a PT Cruiser?

2 years ago Dusty Tagalon drove his Olds Alero in there.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on December 31, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
Hopalong, you missed what in some ways may have been the most fun Muster of all time, the National one in 2009 where we stayed at Ft Hartsuff:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Ft%20Hartsuff%202009/PICT9387.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Ft%20Hartsuff%202009/PICT9392.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Ft%20Hartsuff%202009/PICT9393.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Ft%20Hartsuff%202009/PICT9419.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Ft%20Hartsuff%202009/PICT9383.jpg)

And don't tell the Dept Commander about me posting this one again, I had to ren-list to finish out my KP: ;)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Ft%20Hartsuff%202009/PICT9360.jpg)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 02, 2012, 07:27:50 AM
Roughly 23 hours from Philadelphia to Sargent but I'm working on it. Gotta see if any of my Department of The Atlantic brethern are up for the trip.

Check with Charles Isaac. I know he's considering the trip and he was at the 2009 Grand Muster in Ord.

Top brass in the GAF and you would wish two days in a wagon with Pvt. Isaac upon someone?  Some might throw you in the brig for that! :D

How crazy you feelin' Cap'n Russo!?  Hope you like Colts and Springfields! ;D
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Capt.Virgil Russo on January 02, 2012, 03:47:08 PM
Top brass in the GAF and you would wish two days in a wagon with Pvt. Isaac upon someone?  Some might throw you in the brig for that! :D

How crazy you feelin' Cap'n Russo!?  Hope you like Colts and Springfields! ;D

I walk the line between sanity and lunacy on a regular basis, I think we'd get along fine!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 02, 2012, 07:03:05 PM
Sounds like a winner! Now, I can't make any promises, but I do hope to make it out there for another shoot!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Sam Perfye on January 03, 2012, 08:28:55 PM
Dept. of the Atlantic personnel, I'm located in central Ia. about 25 miles north of I-80, approx. 8 hours from the Dept. of Mo. muster site if anyone would like to bivouc here on thier way we can handle 4-6 easily. Had to miss this shoot last year but it won't happen again, too much fun and a format you can't find just anywhere. Let me kniow. Al
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Capt.Virgil Russo on January 04, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
Dept. of the Atlantic personnel, I'm located in central Ia. about 25 miles north of I-80, approx. 8 hours from the Dept. of Mo. muster site if anyone would like to bivouc here on thier way we can handle 4-6 easily. Had to miss this shoot last year but it won't happen again, too much fun and a format you can't find just anywhere. Let me kniow. Al

That's a very generous offer, thank you! I'm really hoping to make the trip.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on January 04, 2012, 06:36:56 PM
I spoke With Joe Blunt from Florida this afternoon and it sounded like he's going to try to attend.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 04, 2012, 07:12:02 PM
I spoke With Joe Blunt from Florida this afternoon and it sounded like he's going to try to attend.

That sounds great, you know this could evolve into the best shoot in the whole CAS world if it's not already there. 
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 04, 2012, 08:05:56 PM
I started working on camping gear for the event today. I think this will be awesome.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 04, 2012, 08:10:15 PM
What all should I plan on bringing other than a uniform and a few guns?

I have a wedge tent and other primitive camping equiptment. Not all of it is specific to this period but much of it can be recycled from other reenacting and will not be obtrusive.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 04, 2012, 09:31:35 PM
What all should I plan on bringing other than a uniform and a few guns?


Ducklings. ;D
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Stu Kettle on January 05, 2012, 06:13:53 AM
What all should I plan on bringing other than a uniform and a few guns?

Plenty of ammo & a mess kit - the commissary dept. will feed you well, but expects you to bring yer own plate.  Maybe some sulphur, I hear it will keep the chiggers off.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 08:27:30 AM
About how many rounds of rifle and pistol ammo should I plan to bring?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2012, 09:30:39 AM
Plenty of ammo & a mess kit - the commissary dept. will feed you well, but expects you to bring yer own plate.  Maybe some sulphur, I hear it will keep the chiggers off.

Thanks Stu, I need to remember to mention the mess kit closer to the time. 

A tin pie plate and some silverware is all you need, a coffee cup is handy but I have extras on those.


Hop Along and others, I'm always open to suggestions as to what to put on the menu.  Also if someone is allergic to something please let me know, for example you will never see anything made with Blue Cheese in my camp. :o
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 09:53:47 AM
The only thing I am allergic to is being hungry. ;-)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2012, 11:10:16 AM
The only thing I am allergic to is being hungry. ;-)

The the commissary dept will take care of that problem, I will warn you we don't do low calorie, low fat type yuppie foods. 

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Stu Kettle on January 05, 2012, 12:55:08 PM
About how many rounds of rifle and pistol ammo should I plan to bring?

Plenty, but its hard to say how many that is - they won't give us a round count like a SASS shoot, because its "shoot till they all fall down" & some fellas will shoot several times at a target before it falls down.  When the time gets closer Pitspitr will let us know how many targets to expect.  Also, the targets will be smaller and farther away than in SASS.  Last year was my first time there, they kept telling me I would have to "slow down & aim" - I'm still working on that "slow down" part ;)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
Depends on how good you are. ;D
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 01:07:43 PM
while we are on the subject of guns and ammo I have a question about my handgun. I am looking for a Schofield but I may not have on in time for the muster. I have a Ruger Vaquero in 45 colt but that is not on the approved handgun list. is that allowed?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on January 05, 2012, 01:12:52 PM
 Last year was my first time there, they kept telling me I would have to "slow down & aim" - I'm still working on that "slow down" part ;)

Yes, but the AIM part is the important part for most people and you didn't seem to have a problem there.

Hopalong, I hadn't thought about the need for a recomended "bring" list I will work on one and post it as soon as I can get it put together. In addition the most important part at this point is bring what you got and think you might need, and we'll work with you on the rest.

The round count is bring lots and lots. This match will utilize the new skirmish format entirely and the number of rounds you use will be dependant on how many times you miss. Ned Neiderlander may be able to give you a closer estimate. It seems to me that it took on average about 2-3 shots per target. We usually have about thirty to forty total (rifle and pistol) targets per stage. There will be 3 stages in the Skirmish Course (main match)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: cpt dan blodgett on January 05, 2012, 03:00:55 PM
Just for drill, what are the approximate ranges of your rifle and pistol targets.
As I understand in SASS maxes apply < 1400 fps rifle and <1000 FPS pistol
please confirm.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
Hopalong, I hadn't thought about the need for a recomended "bring" list I will work on one and post it as soon as I can get it put together. In addition the most important part at this point is bring what you got and think you might need, and we'll work with you on the rest.

It occurs to me that the GAF site needs some info for new guys like me. Since I noticed the need I will try to fill the need. I will start a draft of what is needed to bring to a camping and non camping muster and I will post it here. More experienced guys like yourself can edit it and expand it. Once we have somethign useful we can post it on the GAF site for other newbies. I would like to do something similar with uniforms but that will be for a later day.

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 07:25:02 PM
Alright, Here is a start.

GAF Muster Checklist.

Shelter:
•   Shelter Halves
     o        Or Wedge tent
     o        Or Wall Tent
     o        Or Sibley Tent

Bedding:
•   Blankets
     o       Or Bed Roll

Lighting:
•   Matches
•   Candle box
     o       Or Candle Lantern
     o       Or Oil Lamp/Lantern

Mess Gear:
•   Tin Plate
     o       Or Meat Can
•   Knife
•   Fork,
•   Spoon
•   Tin Cup

Uniforms:
•   Shirt
•   Underwear
•   Socks
•   Blouse/frock coat
•   Trousers
•   Suspenders
•   Shoes
     o       Or shoes and leggings
     o       Or Boots
•   Overcoat
•   Poncho
•   Gloves
•   Hat
     o       Or sun helmet
•   Neckerchief

Equipment:
•   Belt
•   Ammo Box
     o       Or Ammo Belt
•   Holster
•   Haversack
•   Blanket Bag
•   Canteen


Weapons:
•   Rifle
     o       Or Carbine
•   Belt Knife
     o       Or entrenching tool
•   Bayonet
     o       Or Sabre
•   Pistol
•   Cleaning supplies and tools

Additional Niceties:
•   Folding stool
•   Folding chair
•   Rain/Sun fly
•   Foot Locker
•   Sleeping pad
•   Hammer/mallet
•   Ground Cloth
•   Toiletries
•   



What did I miss?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on January 05, 2012, 07:27:06 PM
Believe it or not, I did at one time make a list of things to bring, and then we never got it out.  Poor staff work, I know!  I'll dig out that list and compare it with yours.  Between us, we should be able to come up with a pretty good list.  It looks like yours is pretty complete, though.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 07:36:16 PM
I would like to put elaborate on this and create historical and modern options for the list as well as talk about the sources for some of these things and perhaps provide links to photos so people can figure out what things should look like.

I would also like to start developing a list of uniforms and the accessories that go with them. If you are using a 1874 pattern 5 button frock coat which other uniforms pieces should go with them. This is something that I have been learning over the last few months and I suspect other new recruits might also welcome informaiton about.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Drydock on January 05, 2012, 07:43:36 PM
For our purposes, the GAF considers the Ruger Vaquero a Colt clone, and is allowed.

I would reccomend at least 200 rounds rifle, 75 rounds handgun for the Skirmish portion.  20 rifle rounds for the Sharpshooter portion (See below*)

ranges run 25 to 100 yards, most running between 25 and 50.

*Velocitys are limited for the skirmish portion of the match, 1400 FPS rifle, 1000 FPS handgun.  HOWEVER,  for the Sharpshooter (Long Range) element of the match there are no ammunition limitations outside of those emposed by range conditions.  In this case, Milspec full power ammuntion can be used in the Sharpshooter match.

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on January 05, 2012, 07:46:30 PM
What I would suggest, for the Department of the Missouri Muster anyway, is that Jerry and I can decide what camp equipment you will be likely to need, and we'll leave uniforms, accoutrements, etc. to the people attending.  I WOULD like to see us have some sort of forum with some basic information as to what a fully equipped field soldier should have if he's portraying an 1876 U.S. Infantryman, 1880 Canadian Rifleman, etc., to get new guys started.  (Strong, is that sort of what you were getting at?)  Since people tend to research their chosen impression fairly in depth, perhaps we should just come up with an outline and then let people fill it in with what they've found from their research.  
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 08:00:24 PM
 I WOULD like to see us have some sort of forum with some basic information as to what a fully equipped field soldier should have if he's portraying an 1876 U.S. Infantryman, 1880 Canadian Rifleman, etc., to get new guys started.  (Strong, is that sort of what you were getting at?)

That is exactly what I was getting at.
An outline that shows which items go together. Obviously, in the field, things varried and there were quite a bit of supply issues but a tocument that showed and told what works together woudl be a great starting place for new recruits. i.e with the  brown canvas duck uniform you should have this or that hat and these shoes or those boots. That sort of thing.

I think I could take a picture of a well equipped member of the GAF in uniform and build a list that goes with it. For example, this soldier represents a 1885 infantryman he is wearing a a pattern 1883 shirt, a pattern 1874 frock coat, etc...
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 08:02:35 PM
If I seem gung ho you will have to forgive me. I cannot help it. I am an educator. I want to help other new recruits to have the info they need to create a homogeneous impression.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2012, 08:48:16 PM


What did I miss?

Ducklings, you may have to have Drydock explain this around the campfire some evening.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 05, 2012, 09:35:09 PM
I look forward to it.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 05, 2012, 10:01:40 PM
I look forward to it.

If you want to loosen his tongue try this:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/rb_pint_n_mug_cold1.jpg)

The aftermath of the duckling story from last year:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0040.jpg)

I will of course have the powdered green Gatorade for the "Gun shoot thingy cocktails" the spirits will have to be supplied by someone else again, although I have heard corn whiskey is pretty good in them for a sundowner.

I of course being hardcore will stick with my adult beverage of choice:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/DMM2010126.jpg)

These will be available also for those assigned to guard duty, I will state that no one has been shot for falling asleep on guard duty after one of these.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Drydock on January 06, 2012, 03:50:23 AM
Actualy, Ned is in charge of the ducklings!  Bring sea stories!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on January 06, 2012, 04:52:32 AM
Ranges run 25 to 100 yards, most running between 25 and 50.
15- 25 hand gun


I would also like to start developing a list of uniforms and the accessories that go with them. If you are using a 1874 pattern 5 button frock coat which other uniforms pieces should go with them. This is something that I have been learning over the last few months and I suspect other new recruits might also welcome informaiton about.

Here's a link to a list I started. I haven't kept the vendors current and some are out of business and other new ones are taking their place. I believe we'll have one of the new top notch vendors at the Dept. Mo Muster in July, Carter and Jasper.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,33884.0.html (http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,33884.0.html)

There's a lot of "new guy" infor in the GAF Regulations child board here.

http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/board,102.0.html
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 07, 2012, 02:46:25 PM
15- 25 hand gun

I often wonder why this is so seeing how pistol qualification was fired at ranges as far as 60 yards during our era.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on January 07, 2012, 03:39:19 PM
Keep in mind all the targets are half scale, so we're simulating 30-50.  We can alway move them out a bit as well!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 07, 2012, 08:47:26 PM
Keep in mind all the targets are half scale, so we're simulating 30-50.  We can alway move them out a bit as well!

Accommodations like this are why I like the GAF so much!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 23, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
Might be lots of fun to show what those Colt's New Service's will do at long range!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on January 24, 2012, 05:44:38 AM
Charles, I know if I do my part (which seems to happen less and less frequently) my New Service shoots extremely well at long range.  Now I just need to get the new grips fitted.  The original hard rubber ones are sort of disintigrating!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 09:37:26 AM
I think I could take a picture of a well equipped member of the GAF in uniform and build a list that goes with it. For example, this soldier represents a 1885 infantryman he is wearing a a pattern 1883 shirt, a pattern 1874 frock coat, etc...

Going back to this point. Is there anyone who has a clear photograph of themselves (or another GAF member if it is OK with them) they could share with me? We could use this as a starting point for this project. I am an educator and I feel the need to gather information and share it in a meaningful fashion with future new members.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 09:41:19 AM
If no one would mind we could start an album for uniforms in the GAF photobucket account I started and am working on.  The idea of that of course is to have a good photo record of what we do.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 10:15:06 AM
I think that is an excellent idea.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 10:22:54 AM
I think that is an excellent idea.

The album is in place, anyone has pictures you can send them to me with a description or PM me and I'll send the password. 

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 01:44:22 PM
OK, I made a quick and dirty presentation using my own picture. This is just to show you what I had in mind. I know My uniform and reference picture are not right but you shoudl be able to get the basic idea. With better documentaion and a better uniform than my own I think it could be really useful for new members.

I think it could be expanded to show every detail and fine point to help new people get it right from the start.

http://prezi.com/guwkdvd_qmiy/1885-artillery-sergeant-uniform-annalysis/?auth_key=40e4f3805fcfb02fba5c5da48471b9df4ae5e43f

Let me know what you think (and if you can view the presentation)

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 04:55:37 PM
Looks good, can that be set up in the Photobucket account?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 06:58:13 PM
I am not sure. I think so. I will play with downloading it and then uploading it to photobucket.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 07:04:56 PM
OK, that was really good I thought. 

Maybe if it can then we could do some thoers.  Might have to make you part of the Signal Corps. ;D

Bring your camera to the DOM Muster if you make it.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 07:05:54 PM
Bring your camera to the DOM Muster if you make it.

I would not miss it for the world!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 07:07:12 PM
Do others think this has value? I would be willing to do one more thoroughly and accurately than this little test one if I get a nice clear photo of someone.

http://prezi.com/guwkdvd_qmiy/1885-artillery-sergeant-uniform-annalysis/?auth_key=40e4f3805fcfb02fba5c5da48471b9df4ae5e43f
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 24, 2012, 07:12:31 PM
It cannot be put up to photobucket but I can host as many as I want with my Prezi account. We would just need to provide links to them of the GAF website.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 07:18:30 PM
It cannot be put up to photobucket but I can host as many as I want with my Prezi account. We would just need to provide links to them of the GAF website.

That would work.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 07:29:12 PM
I would not miss it for the world!

Looking forward to meeting you.  I am starting to do some thinking and planning on the meals.  (Read that as watching for bargins to put in the freezer.)  I need to make a bunch of hardtack in case anyone gets hungry between meals.  Do you want it with or with out weevils? ;D

I've also heard rumors I'm expected to make beef and noodles again, the troops seem to like it for the noon meal:

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/noodles/noodles1.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/noodles/noodles2.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/noodles/noodles3.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/noodles/noodles4.jpg)

(See how nice having pictures handy can be when promoting the GAF can be.  ;D)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 24, 2012, 07:31:03 PM
Do others think this has value?

Absolutely! Very informative and presented in a logical manner.

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 24, 2012, 07:36:16 PM
  I need to make a bunch of hardtack in case anyone gets hungry between meals.  Do you want it with or with out weevils? ;D

I've also heard rumors I'm expected to make beef and noodles again, the troops seem to like it for the noon meal ..........

Uuuhhh, I would like biscuits rather than hardtack. Soaked in bacon fat and wrapped in a cloth rag-that's a traditional lunch right there! Or maybe some of that Czechoslovakian rye bread or....well, anything you make is probably good-even the hardtack I'm sure! :D
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Stu Kettle on January 24, 2012, 08:14:37 PM
I've heard a lot about yer chicken fried steaks but haven't had a chance to sample one yet.  Keep an eye out fer sausage - we'll need biscuits & gravy at least one mornin' - & don't ferget that little Turkish coffee boiler.  ;D
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 24, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
I've heard a lot about yer chicken fried steaks but haven't had a chance to sample one yet.  Keep an eye out fer sausage - we'll need biscuits & gravy at least one mornin' - & don't ferget that little Turkish coffee boiler.  ;D


(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Chicken%20Fried%20SteaK/cfs1.jpg)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/Chicken%20Fried%20SteaK/cfs7.jpg)

You gonna make it up on Thursday pard, the CFS is a good one for that supper.

And have Ibrik will travel, I will hit the local hookah, coffee and belly dancing video emporium for the makings. ;)

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DMM%202010/DMM2010126.jpg)

We'll load Hopalong up well before we send him out on guard duty, I'd hate to see him shot for falling asleep on duty, that will take care of the problem. :o

Sausage is already taken care of, Mustang Greg will be back from his trip to the far reaches of the world with his helly-copter.  He won't be able to make it but he will gift us with some of his own that him and his dad makes.  We had it at the 2009 Muster, good stuff.  Besides that would be a local item from Sargent if we had to, that's where it came from last year.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0090.jpg)

Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 25, 2012, 04:51:33 PM
I am getting hungry just looking at all of that!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 25, 2012, 05:24:37 PM
I am getting hungry just looking at all of that!

Thats the idea, at Jerry's events you can come for the food and have the bonus of being able to shoot if you want. ;D
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on January 26, 2012, 09:48:56 AM
I have a fair amount of primitive cooking equiptment from my other reenacting days. I have a spit, tripod, grill, kettles etc. Do you want me to bring anything along?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Charles Isaac on January 26, 2012, 09:54:23 AM
I have a spit................

Oh don't bring that if it's the kind with a crank you turn by hand-I'm the only Private and I'll get the job of turning the spit with  some critter Del's got slow roasting!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 26, 2012, 09:55:11 AM
I have a fair amount of primitive cooking equiptment from my other reenacting days. I have a spit, tripod, grill, kettles etc. Do you want me to bring anything along?

You can if you want but I shouldn't need anything, I have more than "The General" will haul anyway.

(http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i200/Delmonico_1885/DOM%202011/IMAG0011.jpg)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Mustang Gregg on January 26, 2012, 11:07:24 AM
 ;D ;D
Del: 

Things are pretty slow tonight, so I am checking out the GAF on CAS City.
Yep, I have a load of black pepper/sage breakfast pork sausage made up for the Muster in the deep freeze.  It is a traditional farm recipe we still use.  I will have some mulberry jelly to go on the excellent buscuits you bake.
And I should have a couple bottles of Bohemian (mulberry and watermelon) wine for the evening after supper desert, if you'd like.
GB offered his farm-raised hen and duck eggs too.

Mustang Gregg GAF #64
[Who will be AWOL]  >:(
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Delmonico on January 26, 2012, 11:32:42 AM
We would love the eggs and I'm sure some would enjoy the wine.  I wonder if we got Buffalo Bill to write the Governor if we could get you a note excusing you? ;) ;D

Dang I was looking forward to sharing food and coffee with you again, it's been way to dang long.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on January 26, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
We would love the eggs and I'm sure some would enjoy the wine.  I wonder if we got Buffalo Bill to write the Governor if we could get you a note excusing you? ;) ;D

Dang I was looking forward to sharing food and coffee with you again, it's been way to dang long.
+1
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on February 03, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
Our local ranges do not have room for long range stages. Can you think of ways to build GAF stages on short ranges? I am betting we could get a side match going every few months if we could figure it out. I can certaily make stages that use GAF guns and reload on the clock. What else would make the stages more GAF?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: pony express on February 03, 2012, 07:16:03 PM
Even though you don't have room for long range, you should be able to set the targets back farther than most SASS  clubs seem to be setting them. If there's room, try NOT setting them up in neat rows with all targets the same distance and height. At the 2010 Grand Muster, they had variations like starting off the stage firing a small cannon, or a muzzle loading pistol(bonus for a hit with it). One stage had us shooting pistols through a fence from kneeling position. If you have room for enough lateral moovement, I remember another, from '09, we mover from one position to another, using different weapons, dragging a "wounded soldier" from one position to another, and even picking up a discarded spear and using it on an enemy that got too close.  Basically avoid "stand and deliver, sweep left to right , then right to left" type stages.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: G.W. Strong on February 03, 2012, 11:07:52 PM
Great suggestions. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on February 04, 2012, 07:35:03 AM
Good morning, Strong!

Another suggestion is to set up stages that make some sort of tactical sense, such as you have to eliminate the enemy squad before you can move and engage the next group.  Also, if you can, set up a couple of targets you can only see standing up.  Encourage the use of cover.  (Hay bales are excellent for building walls and such.)  Have fun with it!
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Pitspitr on February 04, 2012, 09:35:59 AM
Downsized targets simulate longer range.
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: Niederlander on February 04, 2012, 10:46:32 AM
Good point.  The Blunt targets we use in the Department of the Missouri are all half size.  (I'd hate to have to move a full size standing blunt target made of 3/8 or 1/2 inch steel!)
Title: Re: How can I do more with the GAF?
Post by: pony express on February 04, 2012, 10:50:43 AM
Of course, most of these suggestions won't be popular with the guys that want a stage they can shoot in 20 seconds.........