Pappy, ifin you hadnot had said something probably go unnoticed unless a person really started studying them. An uninformed person not in the loop about the manufacturing history of the open top style revolvers would never know the difference. They look ok IMO. My Richards II I bought back in late 2009 is my most perfect open top style Colt (be it cartridge or percussion) I ever bought as far as finish, timing, arbor, etc. It is my favorite open top style Colt conversion/Open Top model. Like the raw looks of them.