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Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« on: June 09, 2014, 08:55:46 AM »
Italian date stamps (updated 2021)
Note! The stamp is not a part in the serial numbers, and it is normally found on Frame in [ ] brackets

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1940        1953 IX       1966 XXII    1979 AE    1992 BB     2005 BZ     2018  CT
1941        1954 X        1967 XXIII   1980 AF    1993 BC    2006 CA     2019  CU
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1942        1955 XI       1968 XXIV   1981 AH    1994 BD    2007 CB      2020   CZ  20
1943        1956 XII      1969 XXV    1982 AI     1995 BF    2008 CC      2021  DA 21
1944        1957 XIII     1970 XXVI   1983 AL    1996 BH    2009 CD      2022  DB  22
1945 I      1958 XIV     1971 XXVII  1984 AM   1997 BI     2010 CF       2023 DC  23
1946 II     1959 XV      1972 XXVIII 1985 AN   1998 BL     2011 CH      2024  DD  24
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2014, 09:34:31 AM »
Thank you for the info.  I've seen these but never gave too much thought to them until now.  I can see the benefit of knowing the date of manufacture.
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2014, 10:23:29 AM »
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2014, 12:30:02 PM »
Roger can you make this list up as an attached file so that I can save it to my computer?

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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2014, 02:16:57 PM »
I sent it to you as email , you can copy and paste it to MS-Word and save it to My Doc.s
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2014, 07:33:54 PM »
Johnson bar;  You could have; 1. highlighted 2. control "c" then 3. control "v" onto a blank document. Then Robert is your father's brother. You see, for a card carrying geezer I have a few tricks up my sleeve! ;D
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2021, 08:25:18 PM »
This appears to have changed in 2021.  The mark is now simply the last two numbers of the year in a box.
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2021, 10:56:26 PM »
This appears to have changed in 2021.  The mark is now simply the last two numbers of the year in a box.

 It must've changed in '20, since I have 3 or more with "20" in the box instead of "CZ".

 Edited 5/26 for faulty memory:

 I have at least 3 2020 Italian guns, of which at least TWO are marked "20" in the box.

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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2021, 03:05:43 AM »
I have made the exceptions based on observations -  thank you
Letter code remains as a guide  (updated 2021)
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2021, 03:45:22 AM »
Interesting.  I have a Pietta Navy with a "CZ" box marking.  A mid year change?
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2021, 06:00:43 AM »
Interesting.  I have a Pietta Navy with a "CZ" box marking.  A mid year change?



Unknown ...I have nothing newer than [CP] 2016 on a Uberti BP frame SAA.
Could be they ended with C Z  and will use  21- etc. rather than starting a DA - etc. 
A quick search did not show the change from previous codes.

PlowboysGhost , would you please post a photo of the [20] date code and maker(s) ?

 
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2021, 03:30:28 PM »
I have a 2019 Uberti pocket navy with a box "CU", 2 Old Silver Dances with box "CU" ,an 2018 1851 RM Conversion with a box "CT" then the Pietta with a box "CZ"  Last month I picked up a Uberti 2nd Dragoon with a boxed "21".

Another observation: sometime in the past few years Pietta has started putting dates on the underside of the barrels.  These 4 number dates do not appear to always coincide with the proofing date.  My 2 Dance "CU" revolvers have "2019" beneath the barrel, yet my "CZ" 1851 has a barrel date of "2018"!  I suspect these are the production years of the barrels themselves, with the proof date reflecting final assembly and proof. 
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2021, 05:03:58 PM »
Went and looked at my other Italians, and noted an oddity:  I've got a 3rd Model Russian, chambered in .44 Russian, with no proof date.  It has the CIP and N stamps, but no date code anywhere on it.
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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2021, 08:56:36 AM »




PlowboysGhost , would you please post a photo of the [20] date code and maker(s) ?
  (Just saw the request.)
 The first is my Cimarron (Pietta) El Malo II in .45 Colt.

 The second is my 2020 Cimarron (Uberti) 7th Cav. model (.45 Colt) is marked "CZ".

 The last is my Cimarron (Uberti) 1873 U.S. Marshal/ Indian Territory carbine in .45 Colt.

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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2021, 11:58:39 AM »
Went and looked at my other Italians, and noted an oddity:  I've got a 3rd Model Russian, chambered in .44 Russian, with no proof date.  It has the CIP and N stamps, but no date code anywhere on it.

Probably in an inconspicuous location, may be under the grips or inside the frame

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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2021, 10:38:32 AM »

Plowboys Ghost ...thank you sir

 The new Cimarron 5-1/2" Open Top .45 Colt I traded for yesterday is marked "21" in the box under the barrel.

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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2021, 08:37:24 AM »
Ok, now you've gotten my interest up. Drug out the new Cimarron American I got late last year (right after they announced Smokin' Joe won) and had to hunt to find the date code. They put it under the grips, but on one side is the standard CZ in the box and on the opposite side is the Uberti logo with 2020, no box, under it. Weird.

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Re: Italian date stamps Year of Manufacture
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2021, 09:03:04 AM »
Yep, found a Box CN under the grip on my #3.  Along with "Uberti 2015"  In fact, a lot of stamps were hidden under there.  Wish they'd do that on more production.
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