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Yesterday was gray & gloomy all day, temps never got to 55°
But today, it's clear and 39° should see 60°.

I did get out and shoot the new to me Zastava M57. I have no Tokarev ammo, but I do load
C96 Mauser and also have some PPU & Fiocchi 7.63 Mauser factory rounds.
These are not as hot as the Tokarev, thought cycle the M57 just fine.
At 2 lbs. there not much felt recoil at all, and the trigger is surprisingly good for surplus military gun.
This is in fact military, not one of the current made Zastava Arms M57A's.
it also has the 1911 style external safety, rather than the slide mounted of the M57A.

When it warms up a tad, I'll Chrono my rounds.


Thanks Major!
Interestingly the 7.62 Tokarev cartridge has a large following with Chinese gangsters, as the
Hot rounds penetrate more than 2 55 gal drums filled with water.... And the gangsters seem to think
It will penetrate chicom police body armor.

Prf mrvl
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Gun Reviews / Re: Questions About Current Percussion Replica Revolvers
« Last post by 45 Dragoon on Yesterday at 09:29:40 PM »
Wow!! Thank you Kindly Crooked River Bob!!! Dragoons are definitely "fun guns" !!!!

Mike
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NCOWS / Re: The story of an 1870's buffalo hunt
« Last post by Crooked River Bob on Yesterday at 08:47:54 PM »
That was a nice story, Pitspitr!  Based on his comment about "going hungry," it sounds as if your great-great-grandfather Copp and his companions were subsistence hunters, on "the buffalo grounds" to lay in a supply of meat for personal use.  In 1870, I think there is a good possibility at least some of the hunters in that group may have been carrying muzzleloaders, although Spencers and the early Springfield trapdoor rifles in .58 rimfire and .50/70 were popular.

There is a memoir by James Cook, entitled (I think) Fifty Years on the Old Frontier, in which he describes a meat smoking and drying set-up much like the one mentioned in the excerpt you submitted.  He was a market hunter, though, and more up in the mountains.  However, knowledge of that sort of thing must have been pretty common back then.

I would like to look up Henry Copp see what else I can find about him.

Thanks again for that remarkable excerpt!

Crooked River Bob
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The Longbranch / Re: gunoholic
« Last post by Major 2 on Yesterday at 02:21:07 PM »
I saw a video, where the guy mentions he took his off, to mount some aftermarket grips.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=ymyy-t&ei=UTF-8&p=remove+grips+from+a+M57#action=view&id=3&vid=a1df4d10ac5a2016cd850025a17cc8d4

Trigger is already pretty nice for a Milsurp, I might look into Walnut grips though  :-\
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CAS City Classifieds / New Winchester in .44-40
« Last post by Mean Bob Mean on Yesterday at 02:08:17 PM »
Hello, recovering from health issues trying to get back in the game and consolidating my weapons.  I have an unfired, with box (box not pristine but intact), 24.25 inch barreled sporting rifle with upgraded wood.  Home computer down but I can send photographs and data via text if you are interested.  1,500.00.  In Tallahassee could meet within area to transfer.  Will consider trade. Thanks for looking.  I also have an 1866 project gun, .44-40 SRC that has enhancements, not settled on a figure for it. 
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There is one in .45 Schofield on Gunbroker right now.  1,995.00
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CAS City Classifieds / Re: WTB: Used 1865 Spencer Carbines .45 Colt or Schofield
« Last post by smoke on Yesterday at 01:06:22 PM »
Did you post over on the SASS wire?  There were several there in the last couple of years.  I don't recall them selling.
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The Longbranch / Re: gunoholic
« Last post by DeaconKC on Yesterday at 12:52:40 PM »
Pop that "ATF" thumb safety off and the trigger pull will be mucho improved.
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I started this thread a couple of years ago.  I somehow got distracted and had not checked it in quite a while, and I'm pleased to see the conversation continued.  The collective knowledge here is remarkable, and differences of opinion are expressed as only true gentlemen can.

I ended up with a Uberti 1st Model Dragoon.  I had a little trouble finding a Dragoon at the time, but Mike Brackett (of Goon's Gun Works) actually went out and bought one from a dealer he knew and then did the requested "Outlaw Mule" tune-up.  All I had to do was write the check!  I am very happy with this six-shooter.  I will say that any of the Dragoons will be "a lot of gun".  Old time plainsmen liked them for running buffalo... That ought to tell you something.  Might not be the best choice for a die-hard competition shooter in a match with time-based scoring, but that's not why I got it.

This has been a great thread.  Thanks to all who contributed!

Crooked River Bob
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Uberti, Pietta and other SAA Clones / Re: Clone "build" types
« Last post by The Pathfinder on Yesterday at 10:45:28 AM »
Well, unless you can come up with a 'new' manufacturer. Then by all means let us know. ;D
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