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Offline GreyVR

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How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« on: June 29, 2021, 05:53:31 PM »
Hello All, I've been searching for an answer on this question. I have a Taylor's and Company Winchester '73 I hope to use when I'm set up for CAS.

I love this rifle and think it is one of the best looking rifles I have. I took the leather off the stock very carefully because the wood is so attractive.

That said, when I shoulder it I find I poke myself with the bottom point of the butt plate. I imagine the flaw is in myself, not the weapon, and there is a technique to doing this that I'm missing.

I did find this video in my search, but this is a much more extreme curve and is on a single shot muzzleloader.



But he does talk about how the shape of the buttplate worked for the way they shot that kind of rifle. I imagine there must be a middle ground between what he is talking about and my Winchester '73.

Can anyone give me some instructions or a pointer to a similar video on how you are suppose to shoot these old rifles?

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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2021, 07:17:52 AM »
Stock goes to your shoulder-shoulder fits in the curve of the stock. THEN the cheek goes to the stock so the sights align. The curved ML rifles were shot differently than the cartridge rifles.
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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2021, 08:56:44 AM »
Keep in mind that folks back then weren't built on the 'heroic scale' of today, and what worked for them may well not work for you - those old crescent buttplates can be hard on a shoulder.

'Youtube' may be an interesting time-waster, but actual practice and range time will do far more for your skill set than watching someone else enjoying himself.

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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2021, 09:33:48 AM »
Don’t poke yer eye out.
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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 08:27:06 PM »
Hello All, I've been searching for an answer on this question. I have a Taylor's and Company Winchester '73 I hope to use when I'm set up for CAS.

I love this rifle and think it is one of the best looking rifles I have. I took the leather off the stock very carefully because the wood is so attractive.

That said, when I shoulder it I find I poke myself with the bottom point of the butt plate. I imagine the flaw is in myself, not the weapon, and there is a technique to doing this that I'm missing.

I did find this video in my search, but this is a much more extreme curve and is on a single shot muzzleloader.



But he does talk about how the shape of the buttplate worked for the way they shot that kind of rifle. I imagine there must be a middle ground between what he is talking about and my Winchester '73.

Can anyone give me some instructions or a pointer to a similar video on how you are suppose to shoot these old rifles?
Maybe this will help? (Sorry for the late reply.)
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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2021, 05:06:46 PM »
For accuracy , when shooting standing and not supported, you are supposed to shoot this way..more or less, it is the best tecnique....just the oposite of what dad told us....the rifle supoorted againts the arm rather than againts the body, shotgun style.


https://www.avancarga.com/8_articulos/50/2-lamarmora/13-entrenamiento/13_entrenamiento_lamar2015.htm

Using also the left arm as a support for the weigth, resting elbow on the body...head backward....It is the most comfortable and most stable way for shooting standing...a stiff jacket helps as a support for the left arm.

Not very  useful for CAS...but they did shoot like this in competition  in the old times... the shape of the crescent plate of the W73 comes from the  percussion rifles shown on the link..very close in design.

These old rifles were more intended for long range shooting...better to keep the enemy, at a respectable  distance. ;D

Our postmodernist way of shooting these old guns is anacronical and unrealistic...the W73 was not designed to be used like a machine gun, CAS style.

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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2021, 08:26:46 AM »

Anybody else notice how this clown finds something wrong with EVERYTHING??  It is hoped, when he considered what is wrong with breathing, he'll STOP

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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2021, 07:02:52 PM »
Please ignore this pompous troll. He only shows up to be obnoxious.
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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2021, 07:38:39 PM »
A Picador, rather than troll . . .

A shame, as I'm sure Sr. llanerosolitario has valuable knowledge and insight to contribute on these subjects, if only he didn't try to use it to kick sand in the face of his audience. 
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Re: How to shoulder a stock with a crescent butt plate?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2021, 09:02:49 AM »
Anybody else notice how this clown finds something wrong with EVERYTHING??  It is hoped, when he considered what is wrong with breathing, he'll STOP

Not with everything...only with “posmodernist everything”. The old timers knew more and better than the postmodernist shooter/ specialist..

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