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Special Interests - Groups & Societies => STORM => Topic started by: Hoof Hearted on November 17, 2012, 11:09:29 AM
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I have thought about doing this for a while.
Over on "The High Road" there are OFFICIAL threads for the different models so I am going to do the same thing here.
Many of us like to show off our pistols and this will give us a place to do so w/o "hijacking" our pards threads ;)
Rules are simple with "no axe grinding" taking precedence, followed by "stick to the topic" (no other models posted, please), then if you are seeking gunsmith advice, or reloading opinions, or grip refinishing, antiquing advice or whatever, please search for like posts and/or start one of your own.........
Thanks, HH
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My 3 screw , circa 1862 Lettered to the 5th. Iowa Cavalry
and my 1978 Second Gen. with a R&D cylinder.
I have another 2 Gen. still C&B
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The 1860 "Sinister" model.......
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_1455.jpg)
1851 grip and grip frame / R&D Conversion
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_1453.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_1457.jpg)
There is a little extra metal reworking in this one........
HH
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Here's a 5 & 1/2" 1860 Pietta.......
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_2346.jpg)
Defarbed / hammer checkered / 45 conversion / ejector blended in
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_2347.jpg)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/conversions/100_2348.jpg)
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My 6 1/2" barreled Pietta/Kirst:
(http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t381/tornado1861/11slimjim.jpg)
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My 3 screw , circa 1862 Lettered to the 5th. Iowa Cavalry
and my 1978 Second Gen. with a R&D cylinder.
I have another 2 Gen. still C&B
Man Major2...........
That sure is a fine looking REAL Colt!
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Thanks
I bought it in 1981 at the 118th. Gettysburg from a Suttler
He had just turned down a trade for S&W Mod 1 1/2 in nice cond., together with an 1860 with no remaining finish and light pitting,
matching numbers except the wedge, otherwise functioning.
My buddy had offered him the trade, but the Suttler wanted cash.
I asked my friend if he minded, if I made an offer, he said "go for it one of us should have it ! " :D
It has all matching numbers.
The timing is a bit off due to wear of the hand , if you cock it smartly it will lock in otherwise it under rotates and the bolt does not
engage completely.
Here is the other side in the case I made for it... you can just make out the faint inspector's cartouche in the grip.
I must also say the first photo (one of several) was taken by the Veteran's Tribute & Museum of Osceola
when I had it was on display for while.
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These are my six 1860's, Ubertis and Colt 2nd and 3rd.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a293/rcflint/Guns/1860Armys009Notated100dpi.jpg)
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Exactly where do the rabble go what has the Pietta Navy pistols in .44cal?? :-[ ???
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Exactly where do the rabble go what has the Pietta Navy pistols in .44cal?? :-[ ???
Bob
That would be a 51, I believe (unless you are referring to a Navy gripped 60).
HH
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I do not think anyone is offering the Navy grip '60 model yet. I keep asking for a first issue '60 style, Navy grip with 7 1/2" barl, but Mr Pietta does not answer!
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I do not think anyone is offering the Navy grip '60 model yet. I keep asking for a first issue '60 style, Navy grip with 7 1/2" barl, but Mr Pietta does not answer!
Bob
I have a couple, 'course I made them that way ;)
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OK, Here's a couple
Pietta Cased set from Cabelas 1992
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased1860Army.jpg)
One of 500 2nd Gen cased set
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Cased2ndGen1860Army.jpg)
Pair of SS 2nd Gens w/accessories in Colt Custom shop case
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0208.jpg)
2nd Gen Cavalry Commemorative set
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/DSCN0220.jpg)
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Here is mine as a "carbine" in this configuration, it is a tack driver
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/Mogorilla/Scrap009.jpg)
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My Belgian Pocket Army with heavy duty brass loading rod on the original carton.
Long Johns Wolf
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Here are my two main match pistolas... `n I jest lurv `em
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/paladinuk/1860/3-2-12readyforaction_zps187a76ea.jpg?t=1353784793)
I have done my shotgun primer conversion to both and they shoot Soooooooo sweet
Paladin (What lurvs his 1860`s ;D ) UK
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OK P.. UK
You know we all want DETAILS regarding your mods ;)
HH
Here are my two main match pistolas... `n I jest lurv `em
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/paladinuk/1860/3-2-12readyforaction_zps187a76ea.jpg?t=1353784793)
I have done my shotgun primer conversion to both and they shoot Soooooooo sweet
Paladin (What lurvs his 1860`s ;D ) UK
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A couple of my CAS favs!
(http://images20.fotki.com/v113/photos/2/36012/10360662/red-vi.jpg)
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Fer HH
Regardin details.............
I hope to knock up a powerpoint show fer ya but I`m going into Hospital on Tuesday for my 2nd hip replacement so bare with me pard iffn I dont manage to get it done in time pard
Paladin (What dont like Hospitals :( ) UK
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Fer HH
Regardin details.............
I hope to knock up a powerpoint show fer ya but I`m going into Hospital on Tuesday for my 2nd hip replacement so bare with me pard iffn I dont manage to get it done in time pard
Paladin (What dont like Hospitals :( ) UK
I've got photos of your standard primer mod. But, am looking forward to seeing the shotgun primer mod. Sounds like it makes reloading easier than the standard primer mod.
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No hurry P..uk
Your speedy recovery is more important!
Good Luck with the surgery......
HH
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Fer HH
Thank you fer yer kind sentiment, :D I had a couple of loose hrs today so I put this together, I check in at 9am tomorrow my op is at 11am :(
I wont be able to answer any ?`s fer a few days
http://youtu.be/Ycba8nYX7UU (http://youtu.be/Ycba8nYX7UU)
Paladin (What still dont like hospitals :( ) UK
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You put all that power point stuff all together despite a stay at the hospital....My hat is off to you my friend.
I had spine surgery/fusion last year and had to spend several days in the hospital afterwards.... for recovery enough to be discharged...Seemed I was pressing that morphine button every couple of minutes. I still cringe and feel faint when I think about them having to remove that darn catheter.
A hip replacement...second one at that, sounds like its no fun at all either. Hope all goes as well as you can hope for and your back to enjoying the hobby in no time...take care.
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Here's some more eye candy, a few of Cimarron's 1860 show guns that I snapped pics of while working Shot Show.
This one is in the white. Don't recall if the grips are real ivory or Tru-Ivory
(http://www.davidscottharper.com/photos/Cim_1860-White.jpg)
An 1860 Richards-Mason
(http://www.davidscottharper.com/photos/Cim_1860RM.jpg)
Tiffany 1860, silver and gold plated. Rather gaudy, but then this type of gun isn't intended to be a shooter!
(http://www.davidscottharper.com/photos/Cim_Tiff_1860.jpg)
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Forgive the Dragoon in the photo, he is a camera-hog.
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/Dragoon1860.jpg)
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a old asm army. i re-done the grips. finished them with cordavon leather dye. some store bought holsters that i got from cabellas and took apart. added a deer skin lining a toe plug and some tool work
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1608_zps7d34330c.jpg)
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Hi,
Here is my 1860 Conversion based on a Signature Series, a Kirst Ring and a modified uberti cylinder.
Regards
Colt
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When you say "modified uberti cylinder" do you mean you bored the Uberti cylinder out and to what calibre?
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Hi,
1. I cut the front of the cylinder off to allow for a bushing.
2. I cut the back of the cylinder off outside of the ratchet to clear the Kirst ring.
3. I sleeved the cylinder and barrel to 38 special.
I would have liked to keep it at 44 or 41 but the locking notches in the cylinder are too deep to allow these calibers.
Regards
Colt
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Ok Thanks,
We cant get the Kirst kits here any more because of the export ban so I am looking at other ways to convert my 1860 to a Type 1 Richards. I have the Type 2 in 44 colt and Two Open Top's.
I was hoping to get the 41 to work and have picked up a case today to see if it will work.
Thanks.
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Hi,
I tried the 41 and found that the chamber will intersect the bottom of the bolt notch with 2-3 thousands of overlap. In other
words the chambers will be barely visible at the bottom of the bolt notch. While I wouldn't advocate shooting a gun with
this condition, I am told that some of the 19th century 44 conversions were made this way. It also looks tacky and scary. Kirst
solves this problem by going to a five shooter with the locking notches between the chambers, but I wanted a six shooter.
After line boring the cylinder sleeves, the gun shoots as accurate as my Ruger vaquero.
Regards
Colt
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I have two Army '60's (Pietta's) never used them in CAS. They just sat in my gun safe, so after looking at a lot the conversions shown here... I said, I can do that... I have converted one of the revolvers using Kirst Konverters with ejector assembly. Waiting on Hoof Hearted to send me the Kirst conversion for the second revolver (back ordered). I have defarbed the barrels and ground the Loading Lever Retainer off and reblued the barrels. I did not shorten the barrel's, left them at 8". After installing the Kirst on the first one, had some timing problems with the hand pawl, but that has been corrected. I used Pettifogger's method of changing the original spring hand to a spring coil plunger hand. It may or maynot be historically correct, but since I will never use a stock on these Army '60's, I am not really crazy about those 2 large stock screws in the sides of the frame. So I removed them to the trash can and cut off the nipples for cap and ball and screwed them into the holes. I think it looks better, now I have 2 lubricating holes... laugh. The most time consuming event was making the cut for the loading port. But the first one is fini and all works well. Here are some pics of the completed army. I am very pleased with the way this project ended.
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a old asm army. i re-done the grips. finished them with cordavon leather dye. some store bought holsters that i got from cabellas and took apart. added a deer skin lining a toe plug and some tool work
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_1608_zps7d34330c.jpg)
I have to say that you did one heck of a fine job in making some vintage looking holsters out of those Cabela's holsters. I'm really impressed.
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Here is my 60 Army with the barrel shortened to 5 1/2 inches.
It has the R&D conversion on it - 5 shot. .45cal
All steel.
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My Cimarron 1860 Richards Type II .44Colt, pictured with an el cheapo Oklahoma flap holster and Leatherman blackpowder belt with DGW hand forged buckle. Knife is a custom skinner by ML Knives. I want to have this sixgun chopped back to 5½", fitted with a dovetail front sight, antiqued and fitted with aged one-piece TruIvory.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/newfrontier45/sixgunsiii/large/IMG_7062b.jpg)
Pictured with the big Dragoon.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/newfrontier45/sixgunsiii/large/IMG_1053b.jpg)
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Here is my 1962 Centaur 1860 NMA 3rd Model Cavalry, (Designation from www.1960nma.org).
She was stored badly for 50 years and has some freckling and the most damage can be seen on the left bbl at the loading rammer. Someone tried to remove the pits with stee lwool it looks like.She will be a shooter though non fired at this point. Yes she is capped and ready to go to the wall as she is my Home Defense System...after the dogs.
Sorry iit took so long to get these up.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa40/OldDragoon62/black%20powder%20pistols/Centaur%20Pistols/20130207115530_zpsc5802fcf.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa40/OldDragoon62/black%20powder%20pistols/Centaur%20Pistols/20130207115445_zps57e32e2d.jpg)
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Here is a pic of my 60's. Still would like to have a Type I Richards. Just don't have the money and not sure if I want to have one of my guns gone for the period it takes.
Updating the picture
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Nice Centaur Charlie ;)
I shoulda bid a bit higher so it could've been mine!
The neat thing about the Cavalry is that it has a 7 & 1/2" barrel and with a Navy size grip would be a rare bird! Lot's of affeciando's here would like to have one........
HH
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I have been crying for Uberti to release an 1860 using those specs, I think that Pietta has proven that there is a market for the Navy Grips and shorter barrels on the big 44.
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Here is my 1962 Centaur 1860 NMA 3rd Model Cavalry Yes she is capped and ready to go to the wall as she is my Home Defense System...after the dogs.
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa40/OldDragoon62/black%20powder%20pistols/Centaur%20Pistols/20130207115530_zpsc5802fcf.jpg)
(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa40/OldDragoon62/black%20powder%20pistols/Centaur%20Pistols/20130207115445_zps57e32e2d.jpg)
For about 20 years or so in my early days, the only home defense weapon I had was a Uberti copy of a Griswold, brass framed .44 (I know) that I bought in 1970. I kept it loaded, capped and in a flap holster hanging off the bed headboard next to my head. ( I still have it, but have not shot it in years.) I had a couple of moments that I needed it, but just the site of that cannon in my hand stopped the disturbances. I never felt under gunned.
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My recently acquired Uberti Stainless Steel fluted cylinder 1860 Army. Made in the mid 80s, imported by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c86/fingersmcgee/Fluted1860Army1_zps5911fc2d.jpg)
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http://www.tombstonegrips.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TGG&Product_Code=Colt_54a&Category_Code=Colt
Any one used this grips on the 1860.
I would like to get a set for either my Opentop or Pietta 1860.
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Here's my new pair of '60 Piettas!!! Can't wait to get them dirty!!!
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/DA403D2F-6445-46B7-B79A-3257C3CB41E2-52318-000004F6AF611392_zpsadf10ade.jpg)
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/fireman_3311/902E69FF-B678-428D-8C4A-11A65FED832C-52318-000004F6B6B34101_zps8e16fecb.jpg)
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Just got this pair. Put a nice U notch rear sight. Reshaped the end of the rammer, put in a wire bolt/hammer spring. Smoothed the internal parts. Refinished the grips in oil. Tresco nips with choke tube release lube.
Picture was shot with a Sony Camera on Toy Creative mode. It mimics plastic lens kids cameras. I like the effect for old guns.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwins_zps56ace4f3.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwins_zps56ace4f3.jpg.html)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwinsSepia_zps8b6b9263.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwinsSepia_zps8b6b9263.jpg.html)
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The color is very cool effect, looks like the blue on my Orig.
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The color is very cool effect, looks like the blue on my Orig.
It does look like the Uberti Charcoal blue finish, doesn't it?
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Wow. Those are beautiful.
I don't know what it is about the design of the Colt open top revolver, but it's got to be the sexiest gun ever made. The lines are perfect; every model is a true work of art.
I think the epitome of the design is the 1861 Navy. Just a drop-dead gorgeous bombshell of a gun!
I like the design so much I have a 62 Police 5.5 coming Friday. The picture of three of em will look like the "Incredible Shrinking Pistol"
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Just got this pair. Put a nice U notch rear sight. Reshaped the end of the rammer, put in a wire bolt/hammer spring. Smoothed the internal parts. Refinished the grips in oil. Tresco nips with choke tube release lube.
Picture was shot with a Sony Camera on Toy Creative mode. It mimics plastic lens kids cameras. I like the effect for old guns.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwins_zps56ace4f3.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwins_zps56ace4f3.jpg.html)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwinsSepia_zps8b6b9263.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiRTwinsSepia_zps8b6b9263.jpg.html)
I need to get brave enough to tear into mine and do the same, internally! Where's the best place to get the Tresco's??
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I got them from the Possibles Shop and he's been great to deal with but the nipples I got had ragged thread ends making them almost impossible to screw in. I had to take each one and dress down the threads with a swiss needle file.
I have since ordered Slix Shot nipples. They come perfect. I got them from Desperado Bullet Supply. Cost is virtually the same and in my brief experience, so is performance although people have their preferences. You pays yer money...
http://www.cowboybullets.com/SliX-Products_c_15.html
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Thanks for the link , Fred!!!
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Thanks for the link , Fred!!!
You bet. Tomorrow I grind open my nipple access on a 1858 and will install some Slix shot as a part of tuning up my new 36 Navy.
j
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You bet. Tomorrow I grind open my nipple access on a 1858 and will install some Slix shot as a part of tuning up my new 36 Navy.
j
OKay, I lied. I took a close look at the shrouded nips 1861 Colt and decided to buy a straight line capper instead. they just need a different treatment with some direct filing. I don't want to do it so I will chicken out.
I figure the 62 Police coming tomorrow will need a straight line capper anyway so why mess with the gun.
I just got a Rem 58 36 Navy which is just a Rem 58 with a smaller hole in the barrel. (Heavier too) So I did the rotary Dremel thing on the Navy cylinder. Worked great. What I won't do for fun. j
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1860 Army Richards Conversions, chambered for .44 Colt, built by Kenny Howell of R&D.
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab128/seth_hawkins/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3910.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/seth_hawkins/media/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3910.jpg.html)
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab128/seth_hawkins/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3906.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/seth_hawkins/media/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3906.jpg.html)
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab128/seth_hawkins/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3916.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/seth_hawkins/media/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3916.jpg.html)
(http://i856.photobucket.com/albums/ab128/seth_hawkins/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3911.jpg) (http://s856.photobucket.com/user/seth_hawkins/media/Colt%201860%20Army%20Richards%20Conversions/DSCF3911.jpg.html)
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very nice
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Great looking guns.
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Here is a pair of Richards conversions as built by ASM. Two different importer's and subtle differences between the two revolvers. Both chambered for the 44 Colt.
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/011_zps8354f67c.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/StrawHat/media/011_zps8354f67c.jpg.html)
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Uberti 1860 Fluted Cylinder
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc194/StrawHat/011_zps39b24387.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/StrawHat/media/011_zps39b24387.jpg.html)
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I really like those fluted cylinders. Makes me wish I'd gotten one. j
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Belgian Centaure Marshal factory engraved from 1972.
Long Johns Wolf
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Belgian Centaure Richards (R1) and Richards Transitional (R2) Conversions .44 Colt cal.
Long Johns Wolf
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Nice guns,
Any one out there do a Richards type 1 ring to fit a Uberti Richards. I realy would like the Type 1.
Great collection
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New 1860 snub. Barrel shortened to 2 7/8" Smoothed and a track of the wolf sight installed. Kirst converter added. Still need to refinish those grips in oil and maybe exchange for a shorter 1851 grip. Shoots two inches at 7 yards with cowboy 45 Brass, a 160 RNFP bullet and 3.5-4.0 grains of Red Dot. I still have to percussion cylinder.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertisnubRtsmall_zpsf68c4b30.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertisnubRtsmall_zpsf68c4b30.jpg.html)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiSnubLtsmall_zpsadeb4d49.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/UbertiSnubLtsmall_zpsadeb4d49.jpg.html)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/Ubertisnubtop_zpsdd71daf3.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/Ubertisnubtop_zpsdd71daf3.jpg.html)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/Ubertisnubbottom_zps09a060e5.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/Ubertisnubbottom_zps09a060e5.jpg.html)
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(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/1860SnubRtBlueGrip_zps17b7d5d4.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/1860SnubRtBlueGrip_zps17b7d5d4.jpg.html)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/1860SNUBRtbrass_zps3fbb7f08.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/1860SNUBRtbrass_zps3fbb7f08.jpg.html)
I swapped the blued 1861 grip for the 1860 Snubby Army grip.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/JCHiggins/Cowboy%20Guns/Snubamp1861_zps4473204f.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/JCHiggins/media/Cowboy%20Guns/Snubamp1861_zps4473204f.jpg.html)
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;D Heres my 60 type 2 by ASM for Traditions. Never had to work on it other than polishing the internals. The Cimmaron 72 on top on the other hand after 50 rounds had to replace the firing pin with one from The Smith Shop,replace the hand that was dead soft and the bolt which broke a leg at round 50 Leather is by Don Barnett at Liberty Leather.
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A lot of good looking smoke wagons here. My humble contribution:
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/Alpha-17/Real%20Steel/001-2.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/Alpha-17/media/Real%20Steel/001-2.jpg.html)
Uberti Fluted 1860.
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Here is the hideout I made from a Cimarron Richard mason 44 Colt with 2 7/8" barrel like the one carried by US Marshall Dallas Stoudenmirein in El Paso Texas, only his had no front sight.
NCOWS #810
Reno
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Here is my Richards Type I Conversion in 38 Colt made by Kenny Howell years ago. It was one of his first, Ser.#006 Shoots to POA. I have 7 Conversions but this one is my favorite. I sure would like to find a ASM in 44 Colt, I have had 3 in 38 SPL. two good ones and one not so good. Iam 71 and a retired dealer and had to send many ASMs back to Cimarron and Navy Arms but would still like to have one to add to my other Conversions to pass down to the Grandsons. Sure do like those Conversions.
NCOWS #810
Reno
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Very nice!
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Here's three more 1860 Conversions in 44 Colt of mine, aged slightly by me and used alot. All good shooters.
NCOWS #810
Reno
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Thats a really nice group Reno......
Here's my ASM Richards.......
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/villafuego/DSCN4232.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/villafuego/DSCN4234.jpg)
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Villafuego, nice looking ASM Conversion, great picture, Iam really jealous as I've been looking for a good 44 Colt, and hope I can find one as nice as yours.
Reno
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Here is a couple of my Conversions, one you have already seen with Ivory grips the one on the bottom, so I put the orginal walnut grips on it and thought you might like to see it. It is a Kenny Howell made 1860 Type I Conversion one his first ser. #006 in 38 Colt and the other on the top is a ASM 1860 in 38 Spl. I have 8 Conversions and you have seen them all. Sure wish I could find a ASM in 44 Colt. I know all their problems, but want one anyway. Thanks for looking.
NCOWS #810
Reno
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That Howell conversion is really nice.....you nailed the finish on it...... ;D
I've owned a few of the ASM's....2 good....1 bad. The one I just posted was NIB....picked it up off Gunbroker last month......seems to be "good" after making a spacer for the arbor (to get the bbl/cyl gap up to .007"), and fitting/stoning the wedge. I made it thru about 80 rounds of BP .38 Colt before things started to get sluggish. It seems like it will run indefinitely on smokeless.
The seller had 5 or 6 NIB ASM conversions......like he bought an old inventory.....mine came in an EMF box w/paperwork. I wish I had bought the 7 1/2" 1851 in .38 as well...
None were .44 colts.......
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Sure wish I would have known it was for sale, as I might have bought it from you.
Thanks,
Reno
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very nice conversions.
here is my 1860 Richards type 1 44 colt built by jay strite
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_2369_zps9fc18a02.jpg) (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/buckskinbilly/media/101_2369_zps9fc18a02.jpg.html)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_2250_zpsf55982f7.jpg) (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/buckskinbilly/media/101_2250_zpsf55982f7.jpg.html)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/buckskinbilly/101_2251_zps28758171.jpg) (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/buckskinbilly/media/101_2251_zps28758171.jpg.html)
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Here are two of my ASM Type I Army Conversions, one a Navy Arms and the other a Traditions, both 38 Spl. shoot great with no problems. All I've done is slick up the action and refinish the grips. Still looking for a 44 Colt, Sure would like to find one to go with my other 44s. Never seen a gun everone thinks is junk so hard to find. If anyone out there has one you would like to sell please let me know. I would also consider another 38 Spl.
Thanks again,
Reno
NCOWS #810
515-981-0694
515-979-4446
leepr@msn.com
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Here is another ASM Conversion in 44 Colt I picked up a couple days ago. I put a pair of Ivory grips I had in the grip box on it that I had on the Kenney Howell Conversion, and they fit not perfect, but pretty close. Gun is a Cimarron which came with the orginal grips, and the box, about 99%, and functions perfect. I have got two 38 Specials, but been looking for a 44 Colt for a long time. Sure hope I can find a mate for it.
NCOW #810
Reno
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Sure wish I could find two more ASM Type I Conversions in 44 or 38 Spl. for my grandsons. Guess I should have kept a couple when I used to sell them. Never seen a gun so hard to buy, that so many people think is not a good investment. If antone has one call me 515-981-0694. email leepr@msn.com.
NCOWS #810
Reno
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Here's my Pietta, brass framed, nickel plated, aftermarket stainless fluted cylinders, .44, 1860's
In addition to pics, I hope video links are allowed. :)
The "Road Agent Spin" and "Curly Bill Spin" (same thing) has to my knowledge never been done before by anyone drawing straight from the holster like I do in this video. This is strictly for fun and demonstration purposes, I don't recommend nor encourage any attempt to replicate my technique of draw with a loaded revolver.
I'm using twin nickel plated, Pietta .44 cal, 1860's, with stainless, fluted, cylinders. The shorter barreled 1858 Rem Uberti .44, you can see (once) flipped in the air but mostly in my shoulder holster.
I recommend watching it in full screen. I taught my draw to the actor "Brahm" and he is going to be using it in the pre production, upcoming spaghetti western called "Fist of Guanto".
He contacted me due to my earlier other YouTube videos of my special draw and gives me credit for the draw technique in his film.
They also have a facebook, Twitter and YouTube page for "Fist of Guanto" which I include the links of below, and are currently in editing for the preview short (to gain financial backers) the preview which is called "Shoot in any direction and you'll hit a bastard" and the planned full length film will be called "Fist of Guanto".
I am not a spokesperson for the proposed preview short nor feature movie and I am not IN the movie (although I'd luv that! Lol), and I do not receive any payment in any way for inventing and inspiring the butt forward drawing directly from the holster that is going to be used in the movie. I am honored someone liked it enough to want to put it into a movie and I was glad to advise and help with my draw technique.
First below, my latest video that I AM in and hosting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jON9LwXTHzs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jON9LwXTHzs)
This one is a repeated segment from the above video followed by a slow motion of the same segment. Gives you a chance to study it closely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oQWZ79w-CM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oQWZ79w-CM)
You may also like my other much earlier videos on this draw I developed, at these links...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfKzaxsRVGM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfKzaxsRVGM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ada7luCdoiI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ada7luCdoiI)
Below, the e mail from the actor (Brahm) who will be using my draw technique in the film short and feature, as well as links to their social media sites about the upcoming spaghetti western.
"Hey Bill thanks for swapping emails with me. So once we began actually shooting the movie the decision was kind of made to take down a lot of the behind the scenes "footage" as to not discourage anyone from how the actual finished product will look (vastly superior than the test footage in theory). We are now deep in post production, been editing for what seems like months... oh wait... it has been months... and to think this is only the "short" film which is supposed to ignite a feature (aka some financing). The short is titled "Shoot In Any Dircetion And You'll Hit A Bastard" and the proposed feature is called "Fist Of Guanto". There will be a couple of good draws in the completed short, including the Archimedes Screw which I will personally confirm at any given moment was directly inspired by the Bill Akins draw as our screen test video proclaimed. Let me know if there is anything specific I can do for you along these lines my friend. In the meantime please feel free to follow our progress at the following links, in fact we would appreciate it!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_3Yj2EG64&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me_3Yj2EG64&feature=youtu.be)
http://www.guantomovie.com (http://www.guantomovie.com)
http://www.facebook.com/guantomovie (http://www.facebook.com/guantomovie)
http://www.twitter.com/guantomovie]]http://www.twitter.com/guantomovie (http://)
http://www.youtube.com/guantomovie (http://www.youtube.com/guantomovie)
Happy Trails pardners!
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Here are a couple pictures of 5 of my ASM 1860 Army Conversion Type Is. 44 Colts and 38 Colt, and 38 Special all in excellent condition. All I have done is refinish all the grips. Still looking for one more 44 Colt so all the Grandsons and Great Grandandsons will each have one when I move on into the sunset. If anyone has one, as most consider them junk please give me a call. 515-981-0694 or 515-979-4446.
Thanks,
Reno
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;D Old ASM from 1984,,,,,, pounds and pounds of powder and lead been thru it.
(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y337/george_rose1/IMGP0043_zpsj6e2y6sp.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/george_rose1/media/IMGP0043_zpsj6e2y6sp.jpg.html)
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I know there are probably many out there, and know what most think of them, but thought someone might like to see it anyway, as I collect them and never found one like this one. This is the best in my collection. I had a 5 1/2" just like it but it sold on Gunbrokers.
Reno
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You folks have such pretty pistolas.
Mine is The Ugly. (http://i.imgur.com/0zwwcGK.jpg) Eh? Eh? You hear?
(http://i.imgur.com/H3iRFcY.jpg)
New Model Army 1960, returned to service with a new hand & spring thanks to the craftings of Wolfgang from Germany.
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Here's some pictures of my Orginal 1860 Army Type I 44 Colt Conversion.
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Here are some more of my 1860 Army Type I Conversion from Kenny Howell ser.#006
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Here is one I have on Gunbrokers for sale.
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reno, great guns, thanks for sharing.
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My small collection of 1860's
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My Pietta/Kirst 1860 cartridge conversions (Saber River and Avenging Angel). I guess they would be type IIs (sort of!). The box is a Cheyenne Cartridge .45 Schofield box with a JPG of an original .44 Colt cartridge box label, sized to fit, and rubber cemented on. I did all 10 of my boxes with these labels. The cartridges are original .44 Colt/Martin from my collection. I think I have 18 or 19 original 44 Colt cartridges.
(https://i.imgur.com/VraWq3u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8u7lhj9.jpg)
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Here is my latest Conversion Type II 44 Colt, and as I have only seen one Type II with a steel backstrap in McDowells book on Conversions, I put a brass trigger guard on it and shaped to the backstrap and grip, made the arbor to barrel correct, and shoots great,. Now just wondering how long till I antique it. I don't like pretty guns, but this one is kind of nice, and I know a lot of you out there like new looking guns, but a little to shiny for me . The top Conversion is a Type I that I antiqued years ago that Kenny Howell made, it's a nice old revolver.
Thanks for looking,
Reno
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Those are purdy Reno! I specially like that antiqued Type I.
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Howdy
Here is mine. It is a six shooter sleeved down to 38 cal.
Colt
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My 1860 Richards-Mason in .44 Colt: 5/5" barrel and charcoal fire blued with Army grips.
(https://i.imgur.com/hdGsfHF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZSbpDdR.jpg)
Paired up with my 1872 Open Top 7/5" in .44Colt.
(https://i.imgur.com/zcaNA6k.jpg)
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Here are another two of my Conversions. both Ubertis one Type I and the other a Type II. The Nickeled Type I came with Mexican Ivorex grips by Gripmaker, I fit a walnut set of grips I had in the bin to the gun, and filed down the front sight a little and may file it a little more, but it shoots pretty good the way it is, so might leave it alone. I fit a brass trigger guard to the Type II, other than that left it alone.It also shoots great. Another note, if I was to want a a set of grips made I would give Gripmaker a call as the grips that came on the gun are prefect in fit and shape, and finish.
Thanks for looking.
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Here's another ASM Conversion I picked up, and know what a lot out there think of ASMs and I know as I have had and sold many over the years, but believe it or not, When I bought it I had never seen a revolver I don't think was ever cleaned so I took it apart, cleaned it stained the grips and it functions perfect, and shoots great.
Thanks for looking.
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I took a little more of the front sight of the conversion, and might take a little more,as it shoot pretty good now, but still looks to high for a conversion.
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Nice, Reno! I REALLY like the ASM 1860s. They were my favorite conversions. However, only one of the two worked. Some day I will pick up another....
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Thanks TL, I also am looking for another ASM 1860 Conversion. You also have some very nice Conversions, and I really like the Charcoal Blue one.
Thanks again,
Reno
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Reno,
I'd like more info on your Richards conversion, it's deserving of it's own thread! Great gun!
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Cheyenne, sadly, Reno passed away last year.
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My pair of Cimarron/Uberti 1860 Richards Type II transitional in .45
(https://i.imgur.com/FoeXaqE.jpg)
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double tap, sorry
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Those look mighty fine. Nice rig, too. 8)
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Fine looking rig.
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Here's three more 1860 Conversions in 44 Colt of mine, aged slightly by me and used alot. All good shooters.
NCOWS #810
Reno
Those look great. :o
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Thought I would share my collection of 1860s from black powder through Richard-Mason.
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Truth and Justice! My pair of 1999 vintage Dave Anderson custom .44 Colt 1860 conversions!
(https://i.imgur.com/RNFifmU.jpg)
With my 1860 Henry .44
(https://i.imgur.com/f8BVX5J.jpg)
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Since we are showing, here are my Type 1 by Kenny Howell and my Type 11 with Fords Nickel Plating.
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Very nice!
Long Johns Wolf
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My Kirst/Pietta 1860s.
(https://i.imgur.com/gevfPE4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oU7Ohzj.jpg)
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I guess I never posted my Type II 1860 conversion in this topic, so here's a couple pics I shoot 44 Spcl smokeless and 44 Russian BP in it. Grip has been swapped for Navy.
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The nickled gun belongs to a friend, and is the first ASM 1860. Serial number 1. (the other gun is my '61 Kirst-Strite, also s/n 1).
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:) Oooooo Hey Abilene ;)
Dare say I really really really do like that there 1861. Yum Yum Yum!!
Edit...Here you go Mike your photo posted - M2