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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #300 on: March 18, 2011, 11:08:11 AM »
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #301 on: March 18, 2011, 11:54:55 AM »
I think I would go buggy lookin at em everyday an never pullin the trigger.  I can hear em whisperin, "Leo, we don't wanna die virgins".
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #302 on: March 18, 2011, 06:36:33 PM »
I think I would go buggy lookin at em everyday an never pullin the trigger.  I can hear em whisperin, "Leo, we don't wanna die virgins".


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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
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How about some revolving carbines?
« Reply #303 on: March 27, 2011, 06:54:06 PM »
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Re: The Darksiders Picture Thread
« Reply #304 on: March 27, 2011, 10:27:17 PM »
I'm in. ;D

Might short spout or is that just too rude to say???
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #305 on: March 29, 2011, 05:50:36 PM »
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #306 on: April 03, 2011, 10:24:39 AM »
Fingers, I just loves that bottom carbine! Got my shoulder stock for my '60.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #307 on: April 03, 2011, 01:55:30 PM »
Fer Freightman..........

A reeel nice looking smokepole
I lurv Rollers too.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #308 on: April 03, 2011, 04:10:48 PM »
Call me crazy but sharps don't move me like a rolling block ...

Is there anyone making a r.45-70 rolling block that could be shot BROWS with about 12-15 #s weight and a  30" Barrel?
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #309 on: April 03, 2011, 04:15:41 PM »
I have a Shiloh Sharps and I much prefer the rolling block, but right now it is broke and waiting for a part to be manufactured.

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #310 on: April 03, 2011, 04:29:02 PM »
IIRC, Pedersoli have quite a variety for rollers for sale.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #311 on: April 03, 2011, 05:46:00 PM »
Given a choice which would your preference be for a .45-70 rolling block? And is the .30-30 considered a  BROW?
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #312 on: April 03, 2011, 06:33:29 PM »
I love my 43 spanish roller.

1879 full military stocked musket rifle.

Now if'n I can ever find a decently priced correct bayonet for it!:)

If you reload - 43 spanish is not that hard of a caliber to load for.

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #313 on: April 03, 2011, 08:26:18 PM »
Okay,  when reloading., what do you use for a case, and do you have to modify it?   

And what would you use for a bullet?
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #314 on: April 03, 2011, 08:47:52 PM »
Okay,  when reloading., what do you use for a case, and do you have to modify it?   

And what would you use for a bullet?

Or you can buy loaded .43 Spanish black powder cartridges from Gad Custom Cartridges:

http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/

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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #315 on: April 03, 2011, 08:53:01 PM »
With all respect to Pony Racer, I could never get the bullet close enough to the leade for my 1879 Argie roller to be accurate.  As it had been cut almost to musketoon lenght and lost its collector value I have now had ithe barrel replaced with a Greenmountain #3.5 barrel in .45-70.

These guns were chambered for easy reloading in lousy conditions, and not for accuracy.  The action has been mentioned as desireable for conversion.

The cheapest option is to get a used rifle configured as you wish, and don't fool around with mods.  Spend a lot on good sights and good bullets/moulds.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #316 on: April 03, 2011, 09:03:45 PM »
Sir Charles,

Thanks for the insight ...

I have always liked the rolling block action better than a Sharps, and have always wanted one that could compete Creedmoor style with the Sharps ... and in a perfect world there would be a reproduction rifle that I could afford that would do that ,,, and if it were in smething less punishing than the .45-70 (For my shoulders, though intact, are not getting any younger LOL), well. so much the better ...
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #317 on: April 03, 2011, 11:38:46 PM »
Sir Charles,

 ,,, and if it were in smething less punishing than the .45-70 (For my shoulders, though intact, are not getting any younger LOL), well. so much the better ...

.38-55, .38-56, .40-60maynard, .40-70, or .40-65 are some alternatives, but only the first and last are factory chambered at present, and I'm not sure by whom.  The .38s are considered marginal for 500 meter silhouettes, and the .40s are not really successes at 1,000 yard (Or so I've heard!) The .30-30 or .30-40 would be OK out to 300 yds, but I don't think they are legal for buffalo shoots. For economic reasons, barring a lottery win, try to stick to used factory offerings.
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #318 on: April 04, 2011, 07:41:21 AM »
Sir Charles,

Thanks for the advice on ammo and rounds .... for you are right; the time to commit to a round is BEFORE I buy a rifle and am committed to that round ...
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Re: Guns of the Darksiders
« Reply #319 on: April 04, 2011, 08:42:12 AM »
I have always liked the rolling block action better than a Sharps, and have always wanted one that could compete Creedmoor style with the Sharps ... and in a perfect world there would be a reproduction rifle that I could afford that would do that ,,, and if it were in smething less punishing than the .45-70 (For my shoulders, though intact, are not getting any younger LOL), well. so much the better ...

If you plan to shoot at Creedmoor distances(1,000 yards) unless you want to spend a lot of money or, are good at putting together a rifle, you will need to go with 45 caliber. While 45-70 is acceptable for 1,000 yard shooting 45-90 or bigger would be better but they are not kind to the shoulder.  On the lower end of the scale Pedersoli is making a Rolling Block and Hi-Wall rifle that perform very well.  On the higher end Shiloh Sharps and CPA are making top-of-the-line rifles. 

There has been work done with the 38 caliber for long distances with success.  Fast twist barrels and looong bullets have given good results.  Someone shooting a 38-56 was overall long range winner at one ot the Camp Atterbury matches last year.  Going this route takes money and talent in rifle building.


For distances out to 500 yards,  concern for your shoulder, and cost I would recommend a Pedersoli Rolling Block in 40-65 caliber with the best sights you can afford for it.

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