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Wedge question
« on: February 24, 2024, 07:15:41 PM »
Okay, question about an 1851 .38 Special conversion. Ran tight at the range, hanging up with cartridges in the cylinder. Tried the trick of adding the split washer, but then the wedge was almost impossible to drive in. Can I file the wedge down to ease the fit without compromising safety. It seems that would be preferable to trying to file either the barrel assembly.
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Re: Wedge question
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2024, 06:44:29 AM »

 :) Hey There DeaconKC  :D

How the heck are ya??  When the Barrel to Arbor fit is Corrected (Fix'd), it is most always necessary to re-fit the wedge.  It is quite Normal (Setting on a Dryer).  Carefully file the FLAT side of the wedge (toward the Cylinder Face) until you can just fit the wedge to the Retainer Screw Ledge with stiff thumb pressure.  Normally the wedge will tighten up a bit with shooting and yule need to "tap" it back out.  ;D

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Re: Wedge question
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2024, 09:14:20 PM »
:) Hey There DeaconKC  :D

How the heck are ya??  When the Barrel to Arbor fit is Corrected (Fix'd), it is most always necessary to re-fit the wedge.  It is quite Normal (Setting on a Dryer).  Carefully file the FLAT side of the wedge (toward the Cylinder Face) until you can just fit the wedge to the Retainer Screw Ledge with stiff thumb pressure.  Normally the wedge will tighten up a bit with shooting and yule need to "tap" it back out.  ;D

Thanks! That's exactly what I needed to be sure of.
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Re: Wedge question
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Re: Wedge question
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2024, 10:53:14 PM »
Ideally .  .  .  if you want it to be set up correctly,  there is a process.  I have a '61 Navy  in 38sp here so the first step is correcting  the arbor length. This particular example is going to need the forcing cone dressed a little so the endshake can be established. The thing to understand is the ratchet is the "stop" for the rearward movement of the cylinder ( now would be a good time to take a headspace measurement). Correcting the arbor length is going to involve a spacer mounted in the arbor hole  for the arbor to butt up against.   Along with that, the endshake is determined by the cylinder mounted "gas ring" and its proximity to the barrel assy directly under the forcing cone. I like zero endshake with a .002"(smokeless) - .003"( bp)  barrel/cylinder gap.
  This particular '61 will  have the f.c. meeting the cyl before the gas ring meets the bbl assy.   For this reason,  the f.c. will be dressed enough to allow a zero endshake. Once that happens,  the spacer can be installed.
   Now, with zero endshake,  the f.c. can be further reduced and squared to the appropriate bbl / cyl gap with the wedge driven in.

  At this point you have a corrected arbor length,  correct bbl/cyl gap and zero endshake.  Now you can address the headspace ( by removing recoil shield material if needed).   

  Headspace clearance was key to making Tame Bill and Jedi Knight's revolvers run!!

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Re: Wedge question
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2024, 06:58:53 PM »
And thank you too Sir!
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