Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L
CAS TOPICS => The Powder Room - CAS reloading => Topic started by: henryluc on November 08, 2021, 03:20:48 AM
-
I used reloading after a long absence and I was wondering what reloading setup would be best if you are looking to quickly load between 300 to 500 rounds in a session? TIA
-
I don't think there a better option for the price, LEE PRECISION Classic Turret Press (Red). Mine was around $100 new a few years ago. Spare turrets for you other calibers were $9-10 each,
Now with Covid pricing in place, I'm seeing $137, spare turrets about $15
https://www.amazon.com/LEE-PRECISION-Classic-Turret-Press/dp/B003BWTF1E/ref=pd_sbs_6/141-9691863-5467768?pd_rd_w=V0JaT&pf_rd_p=a8064901-fa56-4ccb-8289-d246cf57993b&pf_rd_r=SJSCCANXAHKXP2K19TGJ&pd_rd_r=68595fc6-1a09-4586-87a2-f932c62537b2&pd_rd_wg=sgP9V&pd_rd_i=B07QL3747L&psc=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9VJLP4MfWs
-
Here is another vote for the Lee Classic Turret
I have had mine for years (10?) and have loaded thousands of rounds of 357 Magnum, 44-40, 45 Colt, 38-55 and 45-70. It is far superior to a single stage press without the "Blue Press" price. I shoot lever action silhouette. The ammo that I produce on the Lee Classic Turret is accurate enough to shoot master class scores. I have in the years since purchasing the press updated firearms sights, casting equipment.....but I have never considered upgrading from the Lee Classic Turret. It does what I need , It does it well and quickly enough for me.
On a side note: I purchased a second Pro Auto Disk powder measure. Knowing how to braze made a "copper hopper" and load 44-44 with black powder. I use two powder measure risers and can trickle the powder into the case by watching it . It works, and again is accurate and easy!
-
Another vote for the Lee Turret [and there is a 550 on the bench too]. Rugged, simple, what's not to like?
-
Well... I've loaded on a Lee Turret (converted from 3 to 4 hole) for over 20 years. I load a number of cartridges on it with Lee dies, and the caliber changes are incredibly fast. I do load a bunch of calibers. So I'm usually doing 100 round batches. 500 in a session would be brutal for me (I also hand prime with an RCBS unit). A year ago I bought used Dillon 550 and now I can do 500 in a session. Still using the Turret for lower volume calibers.
-
Nah. None of the above. Big Blue all the way. All of my progressives are Dillon and I went with the most complete set-up available at the time. I load on TWO Dillon 650s. I consider all of the safety features such as Primer alarm, Powder alarm, Lo-Powder alarm to be essential. Combine that with the case feeder and loading is effortless. I will however couch my use of TWO 650s. I’m lazy and didn’t like changing over from one primer size to the other. Whilst grousing about that of an evening, my sweetheart said “So shut up about it and just get another Press”. Far be it for me to argue.
Oh, I can load three to five hundred rounds in twenty to thirty minutes.
A CAVEAT: Dillon is NOT cheap.
Play Safe Out There
-
I run two 550B’s and two T-mag II’s. No way would I do 300-500 at one sitting. Maybe 100-200. Tried a Pacific auto index shotgun loader, hated it. Folks talk about how fast they can crank the handle but conveniently forget about the prep needed and the racket of all those rds dropping into the blue tray make and don’t the case and bullet feeds make noise too? I’ve also seen guys try to shoot stages with upside down primers or no powder so fast reloading is not necessarily a good thing.
-
... I’ve also seen guys try to shoot stages with upside down primers or no powder so fast reloading is not necessarily a good thing.
That is true. I eliminate those issues with my 550 by putting all loaded ammo into boxes with primer up so easy to see, and I have lights that are made for the press that allow me to eyeball the powder in every round before placing a bullet. My intention is to buy one of those for the Turret as well if I can ever get around to it. Of course powder check dies can help, but not on a 550 unless seating/crimping at one station.
-
All Primo reason to go Dillon , except the price tag
My assumption the OP was interested in getting back in the water (so to speak) with a minimum expense.
Hence , the LEE Classic Turret $139.00 vs $600.00
The Dillon is the big he Bull Cadillac, if you are into producing thousands of rounds , even top of the line for the casual reloaded.
The LEE is a lot of press for the up front outlay :)
That's my 2 centavos
-
...the LEE is a lot of press for the up front outlay :)
That's my 2 centavos
Absolutely! Since I stay with and take care of my mom, I am 90 miles from home and my reloading gear for about 90% of the time, so I got the Dillon to set up at a brother's house who lives near my mom. I bought it used in August of 2020 just before things got crazy with Dillon, and got what I thought was a fantastic deal. With dies and conversions for 45acp, 45 colt, .357, and 9mm plus a lot of accessories, I paid $600. It is very old (1986) and I have to baby it somewhat as I load, but so far so good! I know I should send it to Dillon for a refurb, and will get around to that some day.
Main reason I recommend Dillon to the OP is due to his mention of 300-500 per session. I have always been a bargain hunter, but I'm at a point in my life where I now have more money than time. But I would never give up my Turret!
-
Guess I’m going to upset someone and I’ll apologize now but I recently read this comment on one of the forums that I visit that stated that ‘Lee was the Harbor Freight of reloading’ or words to that effect. I’ve never owned one of their presses but have had other Lee products and believe it to be a fairly accurate statement.
Another quick story. When my father inlaw passed an uncle gave my wife this suggestion. When you are looking for a casket at the funeral home ask to see the most expensive one and then the least expensive one. Then go up one from the least and buy that one. That’s what my wife did. Everyone was fine with her choice except the funeral home.
-
Well... I've loaded on a Lee Turret (converted from 3 to 4 hole) for over 20 years. I load a number of cartridges on it with Lee dies, and the caliber changes are incredibly fast. I do load a bunch of calibers. So I'm usually doing 100 round batches. 500 in a session would be brutal for me (I also hand prime with an RCBS unit). A year ago I bought used Dillon 550 and now I can do 500 in a session. Still using the Turret for lower volume calibers.
How do you convert to a four hole from a three hole?
wM1
-
How do you convert to a four hole from a three hole?
wM1
You could double these dimensions ;D No ?
-
You ain’t right man.
-
:D
-
Hey Biltmore ;)
When I speak of loading Three to Five Hundred in half an hour . . . I ain’t going particularly fast. Just kinda cruising along. I once loaded 1100 in an hour but it wasn’t much fun.
The fun things you mention seeing happen to others is why I added all the bells and whistles to my machines. I, along with Abilene consider Dillon the Cadillac of loading machines you betcha.
-
In the cas club that i belong to there are a couple of shooters who are too busy to brew their own ammo so they were buying remanufactured ammo from another shooter. At every shoot there would be a problem of some sort. I’m pretty sure he was using a progressive. I only need 200 rds [counting sg] a month to keep me in ammo for the next match. 1000/ hour is a commercial ammo output besides as many different cas and non cas calibers as I reload for [14] it would be foolish to tie up my limited primers/powder in a single caliber of ammo that sits on the shelf waiting to be used. Dillons are the bomb but my upgraded T-mags will keep up.
-
Gentlemen,
Bunk agrees with Coffinmaker. My 550B's are set up one for small primer one for large primer. Both were used machines and between the two I have a little over the cost of one.
I am not a FAST loader, because haste makes waste (squibs), but will turn out rounds quickly enough.
FYI my first reloading "press" was a Lyman ideal tong tool graduated to a Pacific "C" tool and improved on up over the past years,
Been at this game for a very very long time. Remember Hi Vel 2?
Yr' Obt' Svt'
Bunk
-
I started out with a LEE Classic Turret press in the single stage mode, charging and priming off press. After I learned the basics of reloading and felt comfortable, I started priming and charging on press and could do around 180-200 rounds per hour. I loaded nine different calibers ranging from .380 ACP to .45-70 Govt. On the LEE Classic press it is very easy to change calibers. I use the LEE classic for shorter runs of ammo.
I was able to pickup a like new used Dillon 550. The Dillon really came in handy when my son and grandson shot with me as I furnished the ammo. I only loaded .38 Special on the Dillon and could easily load over 300 rounds per hour.
The LEE Classic Turret and the Dillon 550 are both great presses IMHO. I'm not looking for speed, just reliable ammo.
-
How do you convert to a four hole from a three hole?
wM1
It was a number of years ago and Lee offered an upgrade kit. It had a new top steel piece and new rotating rod I think. I don't see that kit now on their website but they say they have parts for all the presses, so a call to them would let you know which parts are needed. After I went to 4-hole, I added a factory crimp die to most calibers. If I had not done that, I had considered just removing the decap/sizing die from each turret and having some separate 3-hole turrets with nothing but resizers on them, because I do that step separately first and then hand prime anyway, before going back to the press.
-
I guess I'll just stick with my LEE single stage. It does everything I need it to do. If I got done any quicker, I wouldn't have anything to do.
-
Guess I’m going to upset someone and I’ll apologize now but I recently read this comment on one of the forums that I visit that stated that ‘Lee was the Harbor Freight of reloading’ or words to that effect. I’ve never owned one of their presses but have had other Lee products and believe it to be a fairly accurate statement.
Another quick story. When my father inlaw passed an uncle gave my wife this suggestion. When you are looking for a casket at the funeral home ask to see the most expensive one and then the least expensive one. Then go up one from the least and buy that one. That’s what my wife did. Everyone was fine with her choice except the funeral home.
"Lee was the Harbor Freight of reloading’ or words to that effect "
I suppose there are points to that statement ...LEE did have a cast Aluminum based entry model for about $80
But the LEE Classic Turret is cast iron base with steel parts and solid.
-
For that volume of reloading, I'd go Dillon 550. I think you don't need an auto-indexing press with 5 stations for this kind of work.
-
I also have a Lyman T-mag II , set up for 30/40 Krag
-
Have 2 dillon 550s [given to me] and 2 T- magIIs. One Dillon is 45acp/AR only, the other is currently for 300Hamr , the 2 Lymans vary, one has been reloading my 45 Schofield-.455 and .45special from last weeks match. The second has .38 dies on it. I have multiple Dillon measures and quick connect gizmos on them so I can easily change dies and change measures and start cranking out loads. I prime on these press. Another thing is that I don’t switch primer arms, I leave the large primer one on all the time. They work fine with small primers.
-
I'm all blue press when it comes to loading volume.
-
The Lee turret works just fine. I manually index mine since the silly plastic bits gave up the ghost after only a couple of rounds. (A weak spot about this press.)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jqMtLcdm/43-FBCE27-7-CB4-4046-A235-5-CC4-E7-DB9-B67.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fL0r3XvM/B573-A679-8530-4-C59-8852-8625-DD357-BF1.jpg)
And I prime on this press….
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJZGG5JF/38-B81-FFD-EE1-B-4277-89-FF-6-D5-FF6-A9-AC11.jpg)
And charging might be a bit of overkill to some.
(https://i.postimg.cc/63W0ttpf/32180-F1-E-2-A2-D-496-E-8613-B54-E1-CE23109.jpg)
Yes, my processes take time. And the precision I obtain probably is too much for the levers and revolvers in my stable. But I really enjoy reloading. As much as shooting.