PJ--Sounds like you got a good deal on the 454190. If your castin and loadin both the 190 and 664, you've got two fine bullets. Read some of the comments on the Darkside ref whether the 190 and 664 have big enough lube grooves for using black powder. I've never done a whole lot of black powder loading and shooting with the 45 Colt, but never have had problems when I did. Used SPG lube. The 'Big Lube' bullet molds Dick D. sells and the same 'Big Lube' bullets Springfield Slim sells are fine items for keeping fouling down. Could always buy some from Slim to see how they work for you if your not happy with your cast ones. In casting, loading, and shooting 44 Colt, before I got a 44 Mav Dutchman with its big lube groove, I cast, loaded, and shot a Lee two groove bullet and never had any problems. Still use it and plan on loading both black and smokeless powders with it. Ref your earlier comment about 'preaching', I never think anyone should refrain from telling about their life expierences when it can benifit others. Keep on, keeping it on. Glad you were able to overcome the cancer, the power of prayer is the 'elixier' of life. God Bless! Yours, Crow Choker