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Colt Firearms / Re: New old Colt
« Last post by Abilene on Today at 11:07:40 AM »
At this point, I attribute the misfires (I think there were two out of 30 rounds in the match) to an EXTREMELY hour-glassed mainspring.  ;)
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The Winchester Model 1873 / Re: Recreating the original .32WCF loading
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 10:57:21 AM »
Of mine, only the 73 gets BP or APP and the Springfields Slim cast bullet on the left.

The Hi-Teks are on the right for the Smith & Wesson
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I know you guys already know this, but Hi-Tec coatings do absolutely nothing for Black Powder shooters.  Shooting BP you gotta have enough BP compatible lube.  Hi-Tec is acceptable though, iff your shooting APP.
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Colt Firearms / Re: New old Colt
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Today at 10:40:30 AM »

 :) Ah forgot  ;)

Abilene, since the cylinder isn't native to the gun, I'd also check the Head Space (fail to fire), although some of the fail to fire may be attributed to "operator error"  ::)
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The Winchester Model 1873 / Re: Recreating the original .32WCF loading
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 08:35:28 AM »
I'll try to give you more about the Missouri Bullet Co.s Hi-tech coated.

You can see the Red Hi Tech coated on the right in the photo above size to .313" dia.

Here is the Marlin
Dads Smith & Wesson Hand Ejector
and my Colt
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Lyman 3118, 115 grain.

That looks like exactly what I want, thank you. Now to get that in a 5-6 cavity block from Accurate- I do wonder how close his 31-110L is, it looks like the same bullet, possibly with slightly larger lube grooves which isn't a bad thing. I wish I could find a measured drawing of the Lyman bullet to compare.
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The Winchester Model 1873 / Re: Recreating the original .32WCF loading
« Last post by Major 2 on Today at 08:04:13 AM »
The 32 WCF (32/20) is a cartridge near and dear to me.
It was the first round of any power beyond 22 short and LR, I got the shoot as 9-year-old kid.

It was my Dads S&W Hand ejector circa 1926, I still have it and load a cast LEE 93 grain .(311  311-93-1R)
It is however not the bullet for your 73.

I have a Circa 1891 Mod 73, for it I use the BP Big Lube Bullets from Springfield Slim.  These are a little heavier at 115 grains and mic at .313.
Sadly, Springfield Slim is no longer casting, however I purchased a supply when he was.
I also have a cache' of Missouri Bullet Co.s Hi-tech coated.

I also have a Colt SAA in 32/20 and a Marlin Classic. 



                                                                                                                                               
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Lyman 3118, 115 grain.
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The Winchester Model 1873 / Recreating the original .32WCF loading
« Last post by Little Dalton on Yesterday at 09:40:58 PM »
So a dear friend was given an 1873 in .32 caliber today, manufactured in 1885. She may not be shootable without lining, cleaning will tell. Very straight and unaltered, looks like it’s never been refinished or overcleaned. But, there’s a lot of pitting on the exterior of the barrel and mag tube near the muzzle- scares me, but we haven’t cleaned the bore yet.

If we have to get it lined, we will. My advice to my friend, which I think he will take, is to leave the gun alone other than that and a thorough cleaning that leaves the patina intact . Anyhow, we definitely want to shoot her- so now I need to get a mold, brass, and dies. I am strictly using Swiss powder, and only interested in replicating the original late 1880s loading. Any pointers on loads, and especially a mold? Does Accurate already have a design for an original style bullet? I know the late John Kort had played with the .32WCF in addition to the .44WCF, but I don’t know anything beyond that. The Accurate 31-110C looks very much like John’s .44 design, and the 31-110L looks like maybe a good two-groove design. I’d prefer to get as close to the original bullet as I possibly can. Thanks in advance!
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Colt Firearms / Re: New old Colt
« Last post by Abilene on Yesterday at 05:58:50 PM »
Interesting piece.

Not quite as nice as your last find!

Hard to say what I might do with it in the future.  If I was to spend some money on making it mechanically sound, I would definitely shoot it more.  I should at least inquire as to the expected cost.   I used to shoot the 1901 model quite a bit, a couple thousand rounds over 25 years.  This 44-40 was owned by a really old cowboy shooter in Alaska whom I don't think had ever shot it, and his buddy who sold it for him is friends with another Alaska shooter from whom I bought the '92 carbine a few years ago. 

Coffinmaker, I just checked end shake.  I don't have feeler gauges here, but it isn't bad, certainly no worse than some of my other Colt's.
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