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Stay Alert!...
« on: October 17, 2006, 11:13:09 AM »
Sometimes, you'll find the damndest things when you keep your eyes open - things you'd never expected.

Such was the case when I recently visited an antique show.

Normally - you don't expect to see firearms at these affairs, unless they bear a resemblance to the wall-hanger 'long' guns so beloved by decoraters of years past, so I was pretty surprised to see the butt of a revolver hidden under something much more in keeping with the 'tone' of the place.

I asked to take a closer look and was handed a little Smith & Wesson First Model .38 - a 'Baby Russian'.

Since it's condition was more than acceptable - indicating proper care and maintenance over time - we entered into negotiations and I went home with it.

One of the selling points - beyond it's being perhaps the first 'true' belly gun, with the 3 1/2" barrel - was the inscription on the backstrap of an English retailer - 'F.T. Baker, 88 Fleet Street, London'.

It has tiny British commercial proofs on the barrel and on each cylinder - and it locks up like a bank vault.

Frederick Thomas Baker's business started at the Fleet Street address under the original name of 'Thomas Kinslake Baker' in 1851.

It would remain at that particular location from 1858-1881, changing to 88 Fleet Street & 21 Cockspur Street in 1882-1898, and finally - 88 Fleet Street & 29 Glasshouse Street, from 1898-1900. 

In addition to selling to the general trade - they also supplied the Army and Navy Cooperative Society Ltd., during this time.

That's where the story 'could' get interesting with additional research.

The Army and Navy Co-Operative Society Ltd., was formed by a group of Army and Navy Officers in 1871, with the intention to supply 'articles of domestic consumption and general use to its members at the lowest rates'.

The first store opened on the 15th February 1872 in Victoria Street, London. and supplied shotguns, rifles, pistols, ammunition and related accessories, as well as shirts, watches, saddlery and golfing equipment...

By the end of 1873 a separate gun department had been established.

By the century's end, the Society was issuing an enormous annual illustrated price list, and in 1901 opened branches in Bombay, Delhi, Calcutta and Karachi.

'If' this little revolver was sold through them to a serving Officer - it could've had an amazing career - seeing all of the British Empire at her pinnacle.

Good Hunting!

Vaya,

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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2006, 11:36:01 AM »
Howdy St. George,

Congrats on a great find!  The more time you spend looking at frogs, the more princesses you encounter. ;D  It is alwasy fun to be looking for one thing and find something quite different and exciting by chance.

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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2006, 07:37:21 PM »
Great find St.George.  Some guys have all the luck. ;D ;D  I hope you find an interesting history to go with the gun.

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Re: Stay Alert!...
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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2006, 08:12:54 PM »
"C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell.....
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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2006, 09:57:33 AM »
It sure pays (or buys  ;) ) to keep your peepers open ... !
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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2006, 10:01:41 AM »
Pictures PLEASE
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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2006, 10:15:09 AM »
When "me Trublin" asks me what I am looking for? at a garage sale, my reply is one of two options

1.  "HEH, YOU NEVER KNOW"!, OR
2.  "I'LL KNOW WHEN I FIND IT!"
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Re: Stay Alert!...
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2006, 01:54:31 PM »
My own responses are a variation on that theme...

By keeping both eyes open and widening your search parameters - at least after a cursory walk-around - all sorts of things can turn up.

One late Sunday afternoon, at a gun show that'd been 'up' and operating since the Friday evening before - I saw an M1 Garand tucked hard against a showcase with a large edge.

The two woods almost matched one another for color - so the rifle was effectively 'masked', and no one had even 'seen' the thing until I spotted it, since the guy was more or less known for sporting guns and not militaria.

We entered into a favorable swap and I took home a British-proofed M1...

And that's just a single example.

Good Luck - Good Hunting.

Vaya,

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PS - If I weren't such a Luddite - I'd've posted pictures.
If I find out more - I'll make certain that I do.
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