Light hammer strikes with new firing pin safety 3 click Uberti SAA?

Started by Virginia Gentleman, October 31, 2021, 02:20:16 AM

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Coffinmaker


:) wM1  ;)

Actually, been somewhere in the neighborhood of three different "safety" doo-dads in Uberti guns over the decades.  None of which have had anything much to do with lawyers.  It has all been driven by that Stoopid import "Drop Test."  Which incidentally, no domestically manufactured Single Action hand guns have been subjected too.

I don't even know "WHO" authored the "Drop Test" nor when it was actually made a requirement nor even rationale.  I suppose I could do my Du Diligence and fully research the whole debacle but it really isn't worth the time nor effort as that bit of trivia wouldn't accomplish a thing.

King Medallion

I ordered the hammer and trigger that comes with it, the one that Tronicst1 gave the link for. Hammer and trigger come together.
King Medallion
I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

Tronicst1

The SAFETY I USE is load 5 rounds and finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

RoyceP

Quote from: Cheyenne Logan on November 22, 2023, 12:29:39 PM
........now, the old model hammer is approved for importation because of it using the old Hammerli Virginian "Swiss Safe", which is a long base pin rod with 2 positions, one which acts as a safety.
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I have two Uberti SAA revolvers from Cimarron. Both have three click actions and one had the longer cylinder base pin with two positions. I replaced the cylinder base pin on the one revolver so as to have only the single groove. It's a tack driver.


RoyceP

The target after the first six. My handloads with Dupont 4227 under a Keith SWC 220 grain.

Tronicst1

Quote from: RoyceP on November 27, 2023, 05:54:11 PM
Quote from: Cheyenne Logan on November 22, 2023, 12:29:39 PM
........now, the old model hammer is approved for importation because of it using the old Hammerli Virginian "Swiss Safe", which is a long base pin rod with 2 positions, one which acts as a safety.
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I have two Uberti SAA revolvers from Cimarron. Both have three click actions and one had the longer cylinder base pin with two positions. I replaced the cylinder base pin on the one revolver so as to have only the single groove. It's a tack driver.
She's Pretty and looks like she shoots good too.  8)



Cheyenne Logan

Abilene,  Kinda got busy and haven;t been on in a while, but as to the trigger technique, Once I figured it out, I was able to reproduce the failure by concentrationg on the sear release and stopping the pull, which usually resulted in a misfire/light strike....I swapped out for the standard Model P style parts to eliminate it.

Coffinmaker


>:( All  >:(

Normally, that's "Normally" I try not to be a real Nasty A$$ when it comes to certain manufacturers and certain "Features" presented to the shooting fraternity.

I cannot, in all honesty, find one single thing to like or recommend that STOOPID (Quote Phantom) retracting Firing Pin.  There are only TWO reliable fixes for the thing.

1.  Replace the Hammer and Trigger.  Acknowledging, it's an extra added expense we, the shooting public shouldn't have to bear.

2.  Skip the Uberti altogether and spring for a Pietta instead.  Yule get a better gun for your money.  Eliminating the Two Position Base Pin is an easy 5 minute fix and costs absolutely NOTHING.  Hacksaw MacGurk says "Go For It"

RRio

Quote from: Coffinmaker on December 06, 2023, 10:44:49 AM
>:( All  >:(

Normally, that's "Normally" I try not to be a real Nasty A$$ when it comes to certain manufacturers and certain "Features" presented to the shooting fraternity.



WHAT ??!!     You be a real "Nasty A$$" about Ubertis !!??  Nah, I don't believe it!!   :D :D
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John Spartan

Ordered three sets of the "4 click" hammers and triggers last week from Long Hunters.
Fine gentlemen to do business with and the parts got here in 3 days.

RoyceP

Quote from: wildman1 on November 27, 2023, 06:34:12 AM
Looks to be two different styles of lawyer safeties in those Ubertis.
wM1

True. Mine has a three click hammer but it had the older style longer base pin with "two positions". I did not like the way it fit or looked so I ordered the earlier base pin that is identical to the Colt one. I swapped it out and now there is no safety but the lawyers are probably still happy I left the three click hammer in place. It still goes bang every time I pull the trigger so I wonder if it is really an improvement to have four clicks instead of three.


Coffinmaker


:) Hey There Royce  ;)

There are lots and lots of folks wrapped around the number of "Clicks."  The number of clicks is immaterial.  Simply doesn't matter at all.  None of the Colt Pattern percussion guns had four clicks.  Only had three.

The problem is the reliability of ignition with the Retracting Firing Pin.  The retracting firing pin has been shown to be a particular hazard for Trigger Squeezers.  Trigger Yankers have better luck.  The retracting firing pin, in my opine, is really really STOOPID (quote The Phantom).ds

So, from the standpoint of eliminating an unreliable ignition component, YES, the Four Click option really is worthwhile.  Were I presented with a "3" clicker, I'd take it apart and leave it apart until I replaced the Trigger/Hammer components.  YMMV

Cheyenne Logan

Quote from: wildman1 on November 27, 2023, 06:34:12 AM
Looks to be two different styles of lawyer safeties in those Ubertis.
wM1


Not the Lawyers.....the ATF/US Gov't, GCA 1968....requires revolvers to pass a drop test for importation, also imposes a point system for importation, which is why the Cimarron Pocket model conversion has a 6" barrel!  Not defending Lawyers, lord knows they screw up things all the time....this one is on the politicians, who are much worse than Lawyers.

Cholla Hill Tirador

This "problem" is caused by not staying on the trigger, or following through with the pull.

Abilene

Quote from: Cheyenne Logan on December 30, 2023, 12:00:07 PM
......this one is on the politicians, who are much worse than Lawyers.

So I guess the very worst would be the lawyers who become politicians?  ;D

Froogal

Quote from: Abilene on February 11, 2024, 03:29:51 PM
So I guess the very worst would be the lawyers who become politicians?  ;D

I think it is safe to say that nearly ALL of our politicians attended law school first.

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