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Gunsmithing / Re: Making stag grips
« Last post by Professor Marvel on March 23, 2024, 12:37:46 AM »
Mogorollia and Coffin both hit it on the head!

Moose racks offer Huge slabs, one can easily cut each half of an 1873 grip then glue a spacer in the middle.

Re Coffin:
Yuppers my good Coffin- making grips from antler is a labor of love ( and stinky as h*ll ) .
If you only want one or two sets, it is a better use of your time, effort, and health to either put in some overtime or get a short term second job to pay for having them made, correctly, already fitted!

If you are an antler addict like myself ,  well thats different.
I have put deer stag on most knives I make, I put them on store bought Scheffiled bowie blades,
I put them on a Buck 119, then managed to snag 6 80% finished Buck 119 blade blanks to do more of the same ;)

I even  replaced plastic grip panels on store bought swiss army knives, folding liner lock knives, and some cunning Pakistani Damascus folding knifes that came with some sort of horn panels…..

I have cut but not yet finished antler panels for a pair of Remington 1858’s but I have drawn the line at any of the colts…
Remmy panels are smallish line 1911 panels, and once stabalized I can deal with them. But the
1851,  1860, 1873 …. They all share similar grip frMes requiring way too much antler and with toomuch possibility
 of shrimkage, warpage, etc etc… Otther guys can deal with all that and I will let them!

Trust me on this - you dont wanna be spending weeks on getting your stag grips “just right” and then watch them
Shrink over the next three years, no matter how well i thought i sealed them ….
 
And I dont make any for other folks, cuz I learned not to ruin a great hobby by turning it into a business.
And then have them come back after three years with grips that dont fit…

Yhs
Prof getting too old for this marvel
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Gunsmithing / Re: Measuring mainspring strength
« Last post by Professor Marvel on March 22, 2024, 08:28:31 PM »
Well.
Darn.

Here I was about to devote little grey cells to inventing a most ingenious and complicated contraption…
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NCOWS / Re: 2024 convention
« Last post by Iron City Sage on March 22, 2024, 07:41:16 PM »
I know I am! Really enjoying our first one, super great people and informational breakout sessions!
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Gunsmithing / Re: Measuring mainspring strength
« Last post by 45 Dragoon on March 22, 2024, 05:49:59 PM »
 :)
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Gunsmithing / Re: Measuring mainspring strength
« Last post by 45 Dragoon on March 22, 2024, 05:31:24 PM »
 :)
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Gunsmithing / Re: Measuring mainspring strength
« Last post by Navy Six on March 22, 2024, 04:20:56 PM »
Thanks Coffinmaker. I received a response from Mike Brackett about how he does it(uses trigger pull gauge after hammer is brought to half cock. Hook gauge behind hammer face. When hammer moves record numbers).
My testing is to satisfy me as to why, some of my Colt style percussion guns will still occasionally suck caps despite:
arbor length correction
Slix Shot nipples
polished hammer face and safety notch
polished internals
One or two of my problem guns have responded to a heavier mainspring which cut down the problem significantly. I have no intention of installing a "cap rake". I feel the real problem is the darn caps. The thin construction material of caps combined with hotter caps along with generally lighter factory mainsprings has created this "perfect storm" of cap sucking, at least in my opinion. Having the opportunity to examine several original Colts, both SAA and percussion, I've noted a much heavier mainspring in all of them. Even though I am actively involved in SASS and enjoy a smooth, light action as much as the next person, if I have to go to a somewhat heavier mainspring in my percussion pistols in order to avoid problems, so be it. Besides, all this testing gives me an excuse to shoot more!
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NCOWS / Re: 2024 convention
« Last post by Major 2 on March 22, 2024, 03:44:26 PM »
I hope you all are having a great time.  :)
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Gunsmithing / Re: Measuring mainspring strength
« Last post by Coffinmaker on March 22, 2024, 09:37:06 AM »

 :) Navy Six  ;)

Well Ok, a couple of thoughts.  First thought, Trigger pull only measures trigger pull.  A poorly fit trigger can have a heavier "pull" than a well fit trigger, regardless of Main Spring.

One would have to build a jig to hold ALL subject Main Springs in a like position, then connect them to a gauge that measures the amount of "pull" required to move the action end a measured amount of deflection.  Then one would have to measure the effect of "stacking" (increased pull) over the full deflection of the spring.  Once documented, one would have to insure there was absolutely NO drag in the moving parts of the subject test action.

The results, as applied to the reaction of Percussion Caps, would then be skewed by the differentiation of material used by the manufacturers of differing cap brands.  Also skewed by the differing types/amounts of explosive material and thickness of sealant, also skewed by specific lot numbers of the various manufacturers.

The same variations would also be observed in various Main Springs, by manufacturer, based on lot numbers (unknown) and varying dates of manufacture.

Considering ALL the variables and complications, I think the objective "Gee, That one feels different" is as definitive as it's going to get.  along with measuring the specific Brisbane of the various caps.  Also, the test subjects would all have to be tested on exactly the same set of nipples.  Yule also need to arrange for a High Speed High Frame Rate camera and a skilled operator with a concurrent trigger mechanism.

Have Fun!!
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The Longbranch / Re: gunoholic
« Last post by Major 2 on March 21, 2024, 10:53:27 PM »
Boy, time has sure flown by, the thread is near 5 years old.  :o

I wanted to recall the time frame of a purchased piece VS another, as to which order one came before the other  ???
 

 
 
 
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Gunsmithing / Measuring mainspring strength
« Last post by Navy Six on March 21, 2024, 11:13:33 AM »
I intend to conduct a series of tests on Colt style percussion pistols in regards to mainspring strength and its affect on percussion cap performance. I would like to accurately measure and compare a variety of mainsprings. I do have a trigger pull gauge and considered measuring that as I swapped out different mainsprings on the same gun. Is there a better way of doing this? I don't want my results to be based on "well, this spring feels heavier than that one". Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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