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1860 Henry / Re: Miroku vs Uberti loading gates
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Today at 06:52:04 PM »

 :)  Malamute  ;)

Unfortunately, there is no "Date" when Uberti switched over to the New, Improved, Guaranteed to Fail Ladle.  The actual correct term for the part is "Ladle."  We are talking about rifles built the last 15 or so years.  Prior to the change, the Ladle was made with a welded cartridge stop.

Unfortunately, when Miroku copied the Uberti, they screwed up.  The Miroku ladle is just as apt to fail as the Uberti. 

It is either a DIY fix or a Gunsmith fix.
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Enjoyable video. The dark stain on the grips really make the brass triggerguard and backstrap really pop. I would suggest exchanging the ball cap for something more in the time period, though.  ;)

Thanks for watching. I really should do that.
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STORM / Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Today at 05:46:43 PM »
:) Ha, Well  ;)

I'm a fan of the "None of The Above" camp (snicker snicker snort).  My conversions ALL sport barrels cut to the same length as the Ejector Housing.  Quite good looking they are too.  This is also true of my Open Top "Chameleons."  I added Barrel/Cylinder sets to my Open Tops, so as to chamber and shoot ALL three offered cartridges.  .38, .44 and .45 Schofield.  A disclaimer, when I acquired my Open Tops the .45 chambering was for 45 Schofield.  45 Colt wasn't offered at the time.

My Pietta 1860 .44 conversions and 1851 .44 conversions sport barrels Four and a Quarter inch length.  Balance is superb.

That's a pretty good length as well.
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STORM / Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Last post by Rube Burrows on Today at 05:46:17 PM »
I am a 1860 Richard's guy. All mine have the long barrel except the R/M I recently bought. I really wanted Richard's  5 1/2 in .44 but aren't available. The 5 1//2 R/M is .45. Wish I hadn't rushed into buying it. I am now lookin to buy a Richard's  in .38 Richard's with Navy frame to create a 1861 conversion for my collection.

Excellent grouping Pappy Hayes.
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STORM / Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Last post by Pappy Hayes on Today at 03:34:09 PM »
I am a 1860 Richard's guy. All mine have the long barrel except the R/M I recently bought. I really wanted Richard's  5 1/2 in .44 but aren't available. The 5 1//2 R/M is .45. Wish I hadn't rushed into buying it. I am now lookin to buy a Richard's  in .38 Richard's with Navy frame to create a 1861 conversion for my collection.
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1860 Henry / Re: Miroku vs Uberti loading gates
« Last post by Cap'n Redneck on Today at 02:31:59 PM »
I believe VTI Gun Parts or Taylor's Firearms will be able to help You with Uberti parts.

https://www.vtigunparts.com/store/

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/shop.html

My only input on the loading-gate problem is to bypass it entirely by getting the "Un-improved" Model 1860 Henry.
The Military Model Henry also comes with factory installed sling swivels, a nice option when the rifle is to be carried around in the hills...
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: 44 Colt/Russian
« Last post by Drydock on Today at 02:05:04 PM »
"Modern" .44 Colt dates to the mid 90s, when Armi San Marco offered the first of the Richards conversions chambered in the round,  (I still have one of these)  Uberti picked it up soon after ASM went under, offering it in their various open top/conversion revolvers.  The last few years they've simply ran the chambers further out to accommodate .44 spl brass.  Black Hills offered the caliber for nearly 20 years, only dropping it a couple of years ago, and Starline still makes the brass.  My ASM RIchards and both my Uberti .44 Open Tops will only accept the Colt length brass or shorter.  THe number of ASM/Uberti .44 Colts far exceeds the orginal 8000 or so of Colts production in the 1870s.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: 44 Colt/Russian
« Last post by Black River Smith on Today at 01:56:16 PM »
RoyceP you stated "I got mine maybe 10 years ago. It has 44 Cal stamped on the front of the trigger guard. I am unaware of any "modern" 44 Colt caliber like you are talking about."

Here is the modern Starline 44Colt brass --- https://www.starlinebrass.com/44-colt-brass

As Starline states -- It is a shortened 44Spec with the correct 0.484 rim diameter.  Most of us use it with an inside lubed bullet to simulate an original but fired through a 0.429 barrel (modern Uberti's or others) rather than the original 0.454 barrels of the percussion era.

This Modern brass has been around since the late '90's or at least 2000.  Do some searches and you will learn all about its use in CAS and the Modern repro Conversions.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: 44 Colt/Russian
« Last post by RoyceP on Today at 01:24:47 PM »
:) Hi RoyceP  ;)

Ah well, not quite.  If loading "original" 44 Colt, you would be correct.  However, modern 44 Colt cartridges are the same case diameter as 44 russian, just with a slightly smaller rim.  They (modern 44 Colt) load just the same as any of the other modern .44 cartridges.  Lots of folks describe the .44 Russian and 44 Colt as 44 Magnum Short and Ultra Short.

A modern built Uberti Open Top, chambered for 44 Colt utilizes standard .429 bullets, inside lubed, same same as .44 Magnum and .44 Russian.  There was a time when Uberti Ope Tops for Cimarron would not chamber .44 Special.  I haven't seen one of those guns for years.

I got mine maybe 10 years ago. It has 44 Cal stamped on the front of the trigger guard. I am unaware of any "modern" 44 Colt caliber like you are talking about. The 44 Russian I load, 44 special is another one. My Uberti open top shoots to point of aim with the 44 Russian loaded very conservatively.
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