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Quote from: Major 2 on Yesterday at 01:48:03 PMIMHO it is 1/2 the fun of stewardship...
 To research and have something of the item's provenance.


 

Very true.

Quote from: FriscoCounty on March 18, 2025, 02:44:14 PMIt is the cylinder that is the problem.  I can't even seat the cartridge if I use .429 bullets.

I've had the Smoke Wagons since 2009. Jim Finch (Longhunter) did the tuning on them.

I have no doubt that they are made for a .427 bullet as you say, but if the bore is .429/.430 you can ream the throat on the cylinder allowing you to shoot .429 diameter. Both of my Vaqueros had .427 cylinder throats and .4295 bores.
A .4305 reamer took care of the problem. Now I run .429 diameter bullets in two rifles and three Vaqueros.   

IMHO it is 1/2 the fun of stewardship...
 To research and have something of the item's provenance.


 

Quote from: Major 2 on Yesterday at 09:20:25 AMIt will be interesting to see what your letters show.



I'd have two Colt and one S&W letter from S&W Historian Roy Jinks
The Colts are a Colt Police Positive Special and Colt Commando.

 Only the Jenks lettered Smith is dated as old as your two guns, a 2nd Model #3 Russian.

I think it will be neat to know a little more history on the guns.

It will be interesting to see what your letters show.



I'd have two Colt and one S&W letter from S&W Historian Roy Jinks
The Colts are a Colt Police Positive Special and Colt Commando.

 Only the Jenks lettered Smith is dated as old as your two guns, a 2nd Model #3 Russian.

Quote from: Major 2 on Yesterday at 07:56:09 AMAs am I, Will you letter those Colts ?

I think I will. I have never got one lettered. I have only had one real Colt before these and didn't have it long enough to letter it. I think I will get these lettered.

Quote from: Rube Burrows on March 18, 2025, 03:15:17 PMThank you for this. Always interested in the history.

As am I, Will you letter those Colts ?

Quote from: 38OVI on March 18, 2025, 02:44:58 PM" 83rd Field Artillery was part of the 8th Division, equipped with French 75's. 83rd FA (organized from the 25th Cavalry in 1917). August 3, 1918, the transfer of about 100 Officers and 5,000 enlisted men to the Russian Siberian Force is ordered. {many volunteered but one would have to look at the muster rolls to see who went from what units.}
 November 2, 8th FA Brigade sails from Hoboken and New York, arriving on November 9, 1918 at Brest, France. November 15, 8th FA Brig moves to Ploermel, Germany; camp duties.  January 4, 1919 8th FA leaves Brest, arrives , January 18, at Hoboken, and moves to Camp Mills.  January 20, 1919, 8th FA Brigade leaves Camp Mills and arrives January 22 at Camp Knox.  The entire Division is Demobilized and discharged between February 15 and September 15, 1919.  The 8th FA Brigade remains active for the time being." 1
 8th Division: The "Pathfinder Division" was organized at Camp Fremont, California in December of 1917.  It never reached France as a Division.  Nevertheless, those units which did go across sustained 6 KIA and 29 WIA.2

1. Order of Battle of the United States Land Forces ...AEF: Divisions  Washington, 1931  PP 106-111.

2. World War One Collectors Handbook  1988   PP.14 & 19

Thank you for this. Always interested in the history.

" 83rd Field Artillery was part of the 8th Division, equipped with French 75's. 83rd FA (organized from the 25th Cavalry in 1917). August 3, 1918, the transfer of about 100 Officers and 5,000 enlisted men to the Russian Siberian Force is ordered. {many volunteered but one would have to look at the muster rolls to see who went from what units.}
 November 2, 8th FA Brigade sails from Hoboken and New York, arriving on November 9, 1918 at Brest, France. November 15, 8th FA Brig moves to Ploermel, Germany; camp duties.  January 4, 1919 8th FA leaves Brest, arrives , January 18, at Hoboken, and moves to Camp Mills.  January 20, 1919, 8th FA Brigade leaves Camp Mills and arrives January 22 at Camp Knox.  The entire Division is Demobilized and discharged between February 15 and September 15, 1919.  The 8th FA Brigade remains active for the time being." 1
 8th Division: The "Pathfinder Division" was organized at Camp Fremont, California in December of 1917.  It never reached France as a Division.  Nevertheless, those units which did go across sustained 6 KIA and 29 WIA.2

1. Order of Battle of the United States Land Forces ...AEF: Divisions  Washington, 1931  PP 106-111.

2. World War One Collectors Handbook  1988   PP.14 & 19