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DITTO to what Coffinmaker just said.

The Colt SAA didn't become so prolific and popular because it was obsolete. It was the most advanced version of the single action revolvers introduced by Colt with the Walker back in the late 1840s. People who had grown up or spend their adult lives shooting and handling '51 Navy Colts or '60 Army Colts were easily converted to the SAA when they became common enough and individuals could afford them.

Modern shooters are enthralled with the idea of fast reloads. Most folks who packed a hand gun in the 1870s, '80s, '90s, and into the 20th Century weren't worried about prolonged firefights with drug traffic teams, outlaw bikers, or the walking dead. Their gunfights were over in a few rounds and if that were unlikely they carried another revolver. Merwin & Hulberts, like S&W break tops unload quickly but the M&H is just as slow to load as the SAA. Try it some time as I did.

My $.02 worth,
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The Darksider's Den / Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Last post by Long Johns Wolf on Today at 02:00:33 AM »
Do you want me to check back for you with Nedbal?
Where to obtain the R2, prices of the R1-conversion ring, installation and fitting?
Long Johns Wolf

 :) Forgot  ;)

Why on earth would you think the Colt SAA obsolete??  Robust, reliable, accurate!!  The double action guns of the day were notoriously fragile and prone to breakage.  Of course breaking at the worst possible moment (Remember Murphy).

The only guns in general availability that made the SAA obsolete were Mauser Broomhandle, the Luger and of course, the Colt 1911.  More so the 1911.
Gun Reviews / Re: Standard Mfg. SAA
« Last post by Coffinmaker on Yesterday at 09:10:49 PM »

 :) Well OK.  Recoil Plate it is.  However, I'm still gonna call it a Firing Pin Bushing.  Nanny Nanny Poo Poo  ::)

 :) Well Heck  ;)

There is a far simpler solution.  A couple actually.  First up is to fit a cartridge stop to the Carrier Block of an 1860 Henry replicant in .45 Colt.  Then shoot Cowboy 45 Special cases, duplicating the look and feel of 44 Henry Flat.  Include with that, Either an 1860 Richards/Mason Conversion, also in .45 and shoot Same same Cowboy 45 special cases in the pistol as well.  Could also substitute the 1871/72 Open Top.

Next up would be an 1866 Winchester Replicant in 44 Special.  Source a special Carrier Block from The Smith Shop for short cartridges and shoot 44 Russian cartridges.  Then go with a .44 Special/Russian Schofield and shoot same same cartridges.  Also might source an 18971/72 Open Top in .44

Then we get into real cartridge conversions but that is a whole nother thread.
The Darksider's Den / Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Last post by Crow Choker on Yesterday at 05:38:50 PM »
Hear ya there Professor, was thinking when I typed that post the import/export nightmare.
The Darksider's Den / Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Last post by Professor Marvel on Yesterday at 04:34:29 PM »
LJW---Were the prices you quoted in 2020 from this guy? Wonder what his current price is? Were your quotes in US dollars? Imagine the price of shipping one over and back or having one purchased in Austria and shipped to the US wouldn't be cheap.

I believe, but cannot prove, that the biggest impediment would be the entire “cartridge gun import/export nonsense!
I ahve seen a number of “pre 1898” cartridge guns on auction sights coming from Britain or the EU but the
Import nonsense is so crazy I would fear for ever getting it, let alone the ulcer inducing paperwork….

Prof mumbles
Historically correct 1858 conversions would have been .46 Remington Rimfire using a healed bullet, and the various .45 “Colt type” centerfire cartridges due to the Barrel land-and-groove diameters. A .451 diameter bullet is ideal.

.44-40 would not work well due to that.

It might be posssible to do an “any other” if a heel based bullet was used , in the style of the .46 remington , but a lack of commercial
Ammunition made “custom” cartridges far less desireable. One does not see many of the British or European guns for that very reason-
Oddball cartridges could not be readily obtained!

In fact, the Remingtons made in .46 Remington almost all came with a compatible cap-and-ball cylinder fitted to the pistol So the owner could fall back on shooting loose powder and ball if req’d. Then the wait for the Wells Fargo Wagon to deliver a few boxes of cartridges months later.
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