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Zoot Shooters / Re: Slang from the 20s
« Last post by Baltimore Ed on December 03, 2023, 11:42:01 AM »
  Taking the fall = what Spade tells the femme fatale of the Maltese Falcon when he gives her to the cops for killing Miles Archer.
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STORM / Re: OFFICIAL 1861 thread (post pictures here)
« Last post by Long Johns Wolf on December 03, 2023, 10:25:16 AM »
Very nice, Major,
And I like the holster, too.
Long Johns Wolf
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The Darksider's Den / Re: Arbor Length in Late model Uberti 1861 Navy
« Last post by 45 Dragoon on December 03, 2023, 09:45:08 AM »
:) Oh Bother  ;)

How did Pietta sneak into this conversation??  We were discussing Uberti wern't we??  Just as a point, over the last 15 or so years, I haven't found enough error in the Barrel to Arbor fit in Pietta to be concerned about.

Regarding the 90 degree barrel twist, only enough offset is required to gauge the amount of overlap (should be zero).  The problem lies with the poor matchup between the bore in the Barrel Lug and the Arbor.  Mostly, out of the box, the barrel has had to be "driven" onto the arbor and the "driven" off to disassemble.  Just looking for a "witness mark" in the bottom of the hole will only confirm the whole assembly doesn't fit properly.

Now, to be honest. I can't speak for Uberti guns made over the last 4 or so years as I have taken down my shingle.  However, if Uberti couldn't be bothered to fix the problem over the last two or three DECADES I would not expect it to be corrected now.

I guess I did by mentioning that they HAD corrected the problem.
Uberti's are still  short ( that includes all the "factory Conversions").
 You're exactly right about the witness mark .  .  . if it ain't there, it don't fit right. Dressing down a spacer  "to fit" is quick an easy.  As I said, you can dress the wedge slot corners in the arbor for easier install / removal, being able to turn the barrel 90° or any degrees makes no sense and isn't necessary (caveat: for my correction. Maybe that'll make some folks feel better ;D). As I said before,  you don't need a measurement to hand fit a spacer. Too much changes when you drive the wedge in tight after all one's measuring. Fitting by hand with wedge driven in removes all "figuring" ( hard to measure  " wedge driven in"). Once barrel lug meets frame,  you can continue to dress the spacer (carefully) for "endshake spec." or affix the spacer in the hole and dress the end of the arbor for your "endshake spec". Simple and easy  and no unneeded removal of arbor diameter material.

Mike

 
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STORM / Re: OFFICIAL 1861 thread (post pictures here)
« Last post by Major 2 on December 03, 2023, 09:27:52 AM »
I started out with an EMF Heritage 61 Navy London Model, and the Kirst was fitted, and the barrel bobbed to 3"
The Cyl. & barrel were hot salts blued...
Later, I also had a 51 barrel lined & blued.

The downside was the cost, I have more outlay in the gun than a Factory conversion.
 But at the time, the conversions were not made, so all was well in Whoville  :)



 
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Thanks for another good episode. Those 1st generation Colts are mighty nice. You mentioned it had a heavy hammer spring. Evidently it wasn't uncommon a practice back then to put a piece of leather under the hammer spring at the screw to lighten it.
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The Darksider's Den / Re: Arbor Length in Late model Uberti 1861 Navy
« Last post by Niederlander on December 03, 2023, 08:47:52 AM »
To be honest, I'd never heard of the ninety degree thing.  I just rotate it enough for the barrel to be next to the frame so I can tell how much to add to the arbor.
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The Powder Room - CAS reloading / Re: Accurate 2460 in .45-70
« Last post by Niederlander on December 03, 2023, 08:44:48 AM »
Yep, that's what I've been finding, as well.  I'll just use it for .308!
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Uberti, Pietta and other SAA Clones / PIETTA EL MALO 2 W/UPDATE
« Last post by Coffinmaker on December 03, 2023, 08:42:32 AM »

 :) All is not Roses  >:(

I desperately wanted these guns for the lower/wider hammer.  Alas, not a good idea.  Muscle memory is killer.  I just can't operate the guns with the lower hammer.  They gotta go.  The "Thunderball" Grip also doesn't fit my hands.  They gotta go.  Oopsies, I bought the wrong version of the guns.  EMF has the same gun with Plow Handles and upright Hammers.  Live and learn.

Mechanically, the guns are really good.  The only real problem has been the fit of the Barrel Bushing which had to be driven out and dressed to fit and turn properly.  The Base pin was also a real groan to get out.  The cross bolt is heavily sprung as is the Ejector.  I scratched the bottom flat of the barrel (girrrrrrrrrr).  And I did whack the last 3/32 off the base pin to eliminate the stoopid safety portion.  Gonna be real fun guns when I finally get to play wid 'em you betcha.
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Zoot Shooters / Re: Slang from the 20s
« Last post by Major 2 on December 03, 2023, 08:41:29 AM »
Here are some more... I did not cut and paste these, I was half woke up this morning remember this thread and though of the letter F go figure  ::)

Flivver = a cheap beater car
Flapper = a young woman
Flop = your residents, cheap room. flophouse
Fiver = a 5-dollar bill

Jig = all over  " the jig is up !"

paperhanger = passing bad checks

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The Darksider's Den / Re: Arbor Length in Late model Uberti 1861 Navy
« Last post by Coffinmaker on December 03, 2023, 08:23:55 AM »

 :) Oh Bother  ;)

How did Pietta sneak into this conversation??  We were discussing Uberti wern't we??  Just as a point, over the last 15 or so years, I haven't found enough error in the Barrel to Arbor fit in Pietta to be concerned about.

Regarding the 90 degree barrel twist, only enough offset is required to gauge the amount of overlap (should be zero).  The problem lies with the poor matchup between the bore in the Barrel Lug and the Arbor.  Mostly, out of the box, the barrel has had to be "driven" onto the arbor and the "driven" off to disassemble.  Just looking for a "witness mark" in the bottom of the hole will only confirm the whole assembly doesn't fit properly.

Now, to be honest. I can't speak for Uberti guns made over the last 4 or so years as I have taken down my shingle.  However, if Uberti couldn't be bothered to fix the problem over the last two or three DECADES I would not expect it to be corrected now.
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