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Gunsmithing / Re: 1873 rifle headspace measurement
« Last post by Abilene on February 22, 2024, 09:16:10 AM »
When you take the side plate off, look at the links with the lever closed.  They should be in a straight line.  Another possibility for the issue might be that someone had an OOB, out-of-battery firing, which is more common these days with people trying to go so fast, and that can bend some things, like the lever or lifter arm.  I'm not positive if that would affect headspace or not (Coffinmaker?), but something to check.
Gunsmithing / Re: 1873 rifle headspace measurement
« Last post by Ghostdevilguy on February 22, 2024, 09:09:50 AM »
I'll get some pictures of the links, carrier block arm, carrier block, of how far the lever opens up, and just general pictures of the rifle later on today. If I can find a set if factory links I'll put it back in factory condition to fix the headspace so I can shoot it for now, and then get another short stroke kit for it later.

Gunsmithing / Re: 1873 rifle headspace measurement
« Last post by Coffinmaker on February 22, 2024, 08:51:45 AM »

Ghostdevelguy  ;)

Optimum Head Space for a Toggle Link Rifle is .004   Depending on who make the Short Stroke kit, you can measure your head space and the manufacturer of the links can usually provide extended links to correct the head space.  Pictures of the links and Carrier Block Arm would help identify who made it.
Gunsmithing / Re: 1873 rifle headspace measurement
« Last post by Abilene on February 21, 2024, 10:13:12 PM »
Hi Guy, welcome aboard.  I am not a gunsmith, but I think that is pretty excessive.  I'm thinking that gap should be less than 0.010"

If the gun has some of those go-fast parts you mentioned, then it likely has a short stroke it.  Open the lever all the way and if it goes a little past 90 degrees then it is stock.  If it is less than 90, it's a short stroke (some are shorter than others).  Most of those consist of a new set of toggle links, usually a new lifter arm, maybe more, but most that's it.  Now, putting one of those kits in can change headspace.  Depends on the kit and what your gun was like to start with.  When it gives a headspace problem, most of the kit makers have other links available that are longer or shorter to correct it.  So, it's a possibility that a shortstroke kit is the culprit.  You might be able to get a replacement kit with longer links, or possibly returning it to stock would correct it.  If you have to do that, parts should be cheap or free because many have them laying around after putting in SS kits.  But if you are planning to use it for CAS, you might like to keep is short.  Anyway, good luck!
Gunsmithing / 1873 rifle headspace measurement
« Last post by Ghostdevilguy on February 21, 2024, 05:10:38 PM »
Hi all! First post here, I've been wanting to get into CAS for years, my big hold up was getting a rifle, they were always out if my budget. However at the start of February we were on a trip to Tuscon and I found an Cimarron 1873 trapper used for a price I couldn't pass up. I've been going through it and learning about it, from what I can tell it's already had a lot of work done to it for CAS, it has an aluminum carrier, extended firing pin, a super short stroke kit (I think), and a mag tube with the right internal diameter for 357/38 shells, as well has some nice engraving on the receiver.

I took it to the range and it was deadly accurate at 100 yards with 357 loads, however when going to resize the brass I discovered that some of the brass had a bulge. After doing research, I now believe the headspace is too long. It had zero issues functioning, but it's something I'd like to fix or make sure it's correct for the longevity of the rifle.

With a case in the chamber I can fit a .025 feeler guage between the bolt face and cartridge, without calipers to measure the rim, and knowing that the average 357 rim is .060, my headspace would be ~ .085 correct?

Now where I need help, is I can't find anything that states what the headapace is when it's correct. It could be my fault for not searching correctly. Any advice, input, or information would be greatly appreciated!
Bird Cage Theatre ( Videos ) / Re: A Ruger Comes Home
« Last post by Abilene on February 21, 2024, 09:29:18 AM »
Apparently your cousin did not wear it out.  :)

I haven't gotten rid of too many guns, but there's a few that I wish would come back home.
NCOWS / Small pistol primers
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NCOWS / Re: 2024 NCOWS Convention website
« Last post by bear tooth billy on February 20, 2024, 05:31:26 PM »
Interstate RV park is on the north end of Davenport, It says there is Uber and Lyft, although I've never used them.
Or you may able to park in the city lot between River drive and the river ,depending on water level, which would
be a half block from the hotel, not sure if you can camp there.

NCOWS / Re: 2024 NCOWS Convention website
« Last post by River City John on February 20, 2024, 04:57:49 PM »
Finally starting to get around to planning the trip-We will be in our Motorhome, is anyone else camping locally somewhere? We have a reservation at the hotel, but prefer to stay in the camper. Anyone familiar with camping options nearby? If so, is Davenport large enough to have Uber or something, for rides back and forth?

Bear Tooth Billy will most likely get back to you on options.

Looking forward to seeing everyone come March.
The Longbranch / Re: gunoholic
« Last post by Major 2 on February 20, 2024, 03:37:10 PM »
It's part of the syndrome, trade up, trade laterally or sell and use the funds and buy more  ::)

My gun catalog inventory reads like non-fiction.

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