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Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« on: April 10, 2021, 08:44:32 PM »
Hey guys,

I plan on using a Remmy with Kirst 45LC cylinder, and getting another cylinder for 45ACP. I have plenty of factory 45ACP and plan on reloading more.
I have a few questions I am hoping you could help me with:
  • Can I shoot factory 45ACP?
  • Will the Kirst loading gate work for both 45LC and 45ACP cylinders?

I assume yes to both but wanted to make sure.
thanks!

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2021, 01:51:24 AM »
On Kirst's website in the safety information, "USE ONLY Black Powder or equivalent loads;"
and on the Remington Konverter page the Description says "Low Velocity Ammo"

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2021, 02:05:20 AM »
As our good friend Abilene said....
when in doubt, refer to the manufacturor's specs...

the commercial .45 ACP ball ammuntion can be up to 21,000 psi (SAAMI) and the
jacketed ammunition can be harder on the design than soft lead.

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2021, 05:29:25 AM »
Hello antagony,

I think you need to stick with a lead projectile,
I wouldn't run a jacketed bullet through it.

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2021, 09:07:33 AM »
Unless you already have the gated conversion, I'd go with a 6 shot Howell type drop cyl conversion. In fact, as much as I'm an "open top" platform kinda guy, if I had the time to shoot cowboy, I would set up a pair of Rems with drop cyls.
   They are fast on the reload (faster than using the gate setup), no fuss switching from cap gun to cartridge (pick whatever category -same familiar base)  can be built to show ROA's  "how to" (and lighter) with coil springs, excellent "fouling management " .  They are an excellent competition platform if they don't bother your knuckles.

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2021, 10:51:42 AM »

 :)  PLUS ONE too The Dragoon   ;)

 :)  PLUS ONE too "Others"

     Those that suggest staying away from commercially loaded 45 ACP are entirely correct.  The problem isn't the Cylinders.  the cylinders will do fine.  The problem is the battering the frame will take.  With the "right" bullet/powder combination, 45 ACP can be a real pussy cat.  Gobs of FUN!!

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2021, 03:24:32 PM »
Thanks guys, I have the gated one already.

I may have some lead 45acp ball already loaded.
When I do load, I'll make sure to charge light and only use lead.

Cheers!

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2021, 07:13:41 PM »
Thanks guys, I have the gated one already.

I may have some lead 45acp ball already loaded.
When I do load, I'll make sure to charge light and only use lead.

Cheers!

My ancient bullseye target load of ~200 gr soft lead bullet and ~ 5.0 gr unique not only worked well in my
worked over target 1911 but is also perfect for the remington.

keep them around SAAMI spec for the .45 Colt and you should be fine.

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Re: Remington 1858 with Kirst 45ACP cylinder
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2021, 07:46:59 PM »
Since the ACP ammo in the conversion does not need to cycle a slide, it can be loaded down quite a bit.  If your stash of factory 45acp ammo is sufficient to warrant it (and hey, any excuse to buy a gun, right?), you might think about a single action revolver of some sort with an extra ACP cylinder.

 

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