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Offline Rube Burrows

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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2023, 07:33:44 PM »
The grips are "'magnatusk" from Arizona Custom Grips on ebay.

The 1860 Richards and R-M's are identical except for the barrel and ejector assemblies (except the ones in .38 as noted above).  The R-M barrels are similar to the '51 R-M except being round.

You would't happen to have a side by side photo for comparison showing the differences in the Richards and Richards Mason would you? What about the barrel is shaped differently?

Am I correct in that the ejector rod sticks out a little more on the Richards than does on the RM?
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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2023, 08:06:09 PM »


 :)  Hey Rube!!  ;)

I just love that greeting.  OK, shortcut.  Hop up on Cimarron's Web Pages.  Take ganger (a long gander) or even a "print Screen" of the Richards/Mason 1860 Conversion and pay attention to the Ejector Assembly. 

Then go to the Richards Type II and do the same thing.  Paying lots of attention to the Ejector assembly.

Then it get's even more complicated when you go looking for pictures of Richards Type I.

then we can get into ..>>>

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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2023, 08:27:26 PM »
I've never owned a '60 R-M and have no pics of one.  But like Coffinmaker said, pics are on Cimarron's website.  Yes, the Richards (Type II, that is) has part of the ejector rod exposed.  It is the under barrel lug area that is different, as the Type II originally had a rammer attached, and the R-M was a new dedicated barrel for cartridges so didn't need that big hunk of metal underneath the barrel.  The R-M barrel is also similarly shaped to the Opentop barrel.

'60 R-M: https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/products/revolvers/conversions/1860-conversions/1860-conversions-1860-richards-mason-army.html

'60 Richards (Transition / Type II): https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/products/revolvers/conversions/1860-conversions/1860-conversions-1860-richards-transition-model-type-ii.html

Note that the ejector rod is short in those pictures, barely longer than the ejector housing.  Those are old pictures.  Some originals were like that, including the one owned by Mike Harvey that was sent to Italy to copy.  But it makes it harder to eject empties, so they quickly changed to the full length rod.

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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2023, 08:46:07 PM »

 :o  Oh Balderdash.  I als forgot, one needs to not the difference in the Barrel Lug.  The 1860 Richards/Mason has the "new" manufacture barrel with the "S" Lug while the 1860 type II Transitional reflects the use of the original 1860 Army pattern Percussion Barrel.

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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2023, 11:25:43 PM »
Thanks y’all for the explanation and pics/links to show exactly what you’re talking about.
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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 09:28:24 AM »

 :) Well Heck  ;)

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Re: 1860 Vs 1851 Conversion Question
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 11:19:30 AM »
:) Well Heck  ;)

I should also reflect . .  I don't like Uberti.  Piffel Squeak


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 ;D I have read that before. I have had pretty good luck so far with them.
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