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CAS TOPICS => NCOWS => Topic started by: Books OToole on March 13, 2022, 04:48:53 PM
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An exercise just for fun:
Pictured is a Smith & Wesson 4th model .38 cal. Safety Hammerless. Options include a 5 inch barrel and ivory stocks.
It left the factory circa 1899.
The 1900 Sears Catalog lists a 5 inch, nickel, .38 Safety Hammerless at $12.50. Pearl stocks were and extra $ 1.25 (at the time ivory was cheaper than pearl).
A box of 50 cartridges listed for $.69.
So: who would have ordered/carried such a pistol at the turn of the 20th century?
Use your historical knowledge and imagination to create a character.
Books
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Perhaps Hugh Obrien?
(https://cache.moviestillsdb.com/i/500x/gc9cwh9b/the-shootist-lg.jpg)
(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/9/9f/Shootist4.jpg/600px-Shootist4.jpg)
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I was thinking Bat Masterson when he was in the sports announcer era.
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I think a city policeman in a small town in Missouri or Eastern Kansas.
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I was going to say Pimp, but he would have probably spent the additional $1.25 for the Mother of Pearl stocks!
B. N. Scotty
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Scotty, I think a pimp would have gone for a shorter barrel ;D
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Definitely someone going for the showmanship but not conceal-ability.
Or someone like Patton.
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Scotty, I think a pimp would have gone for a shorter barrel ;D
But then he wouldn't be able to enter the "mine is longer than your's" discussion!
B. N. Scotty
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I know the history of 3 pre-1900 lemonsqueezers. One (3" barrel) was pocket-carried by a homesteader. One (5" barrel) was owned by a doctor in his bag while doing rounds. One (5" barrel) was kept by a newspaper publisher/editor, and carried in the aftermath of the County Seat Wars.
The longer (4-5" barrel) tucks nicely behind a belt, in a boot top, or behind a work apron.
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Me!
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I just got my letter from the Smith & Wesson Historical Foundation.
Now I know who got the pistol in December of 1900: it was Gustav E. Dietz.
Now I need to know who this Gustav Dietz is.
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That is way cool.
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Unfortunately there are 40+ Gustav Dietz from NYC to California listed in the 1900 census.
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Just to add some mystery, I have a pre 1914 44 1/2 Stevens Schuetzen gun that was
bought new by a Adolph Dietz. He also had an old 1895 Marlin that Peevine bought from me.
Probably no relation but??? He lived in Toronto Iowa.
BTB
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Just to add some mystery, I have a pre 1914 44 1/2 Stevens Schuetzen gun that was
bought new by a Adolph Dietz. He also had an old 1895 Marlin that Peevine bought from me.
Probably no relation but??? He lived in Toronto Iowa.
BTB
Maybe we could do an exhibit of "The Dietz Family Arms." ;D
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Of the Lantern Dynasty Dietz' . . .
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Of the Lantern Dynasty Dietz' . . .
I have not been able to find a Gustav associated with the Dietz Lantern company. :-[
Books
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Dim wit! Never explain humor.
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Books,
Did the letter say where it was shipped to?
Yuma
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Books,
Did the letter say where it was shipped to?
Yuma
No. Implying that Mr. Dietz picked it up.
Books
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The closest geographic proximity to the S&W factory Gustav Dietz I found on the 1900 census was in New York City.
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The closest geographic proximity to the S&W factory Gustav Dietz I found on the 1900 census was in New York City.
What can you tell me about him?
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I will get my wife to pull him up on ancestry and see what we can find. She is the genealogy guru of the family.
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Gustave A. Dietz
Born 1883
Germany
Occupation: Machinist
Was a Border in Ernest Jones house.
His brother was also a border in the same house.
Probably too young to be the purchaser.