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Cas City Historical Society / Re: WINCHESTER-SPRINGFIELD-COLT, 150th Anniversary for Three Iconic American Guns
« Last post by Tsalagidave on December 04, 2023, 01:12:04 AM »Thanks Griff, I appreciate the kind words.
-Dave
-Dave
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Cas City Historical Society / Re: WINCHESTER-SPRINGFIELD-COLT, 150th Anniversary for Three Iconic American Guns
« Last post by Coal Creek Griff on December 04, 2023, 12:16:51 AM »It was an excellent video and your article was well-written and informative too. Thanks!
Griff
Griff
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Uberti, Pietta and other SAA Clones / Re: PIETTA EL MALO 2 W/UPDATE
« Last post by Professor Marvel on December 03, 2023, 11:13:34 PM »All is not Roses
I desperately wanted these guns for the lower/wider hammer. Alas, not a good idea. Muscle memory is killer. I just can't operate the guns with the lower hammer. They gotta go. The "Thunderball" Grip also doesn't fit my hands. They gotta go. Oopsies, I bought the wrong version of the guns. EMF has the same gun with Plow Handles and upright Hammers. Live and learn.
Mechanically, the guns are really good. The only real problem has been the fit of the Barrel Bushing which had to be driven out and dressed to fit and turn properly. The Base pin was also a real groan to get out. The cross bolt is heavily sprung as is the Ejector. I scratched the bottom flat of the barrel (girrrrrrrrrr). And I did whack the last 3/32 off the base pin to eliminate the stoopid safety portion. Gonna be real fun guns when I finally get to play wid 'em you betcha.
My Dear Coffin
Sorry to hear of the problems.
Are you able to locate replacement hammers and grips?
If you wish to sell off the lowered hammers and thunderball grips shoot me a pm.
Happy holidays,
Prof mumbles
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Cas City Historical Society / WINCHESTER-SPRINGFIELD-COLT, 150th Anniversary for Three Iconic American Guns
« Last post by Tsalagidave on December 03, 2023, 10:53:36 PM »Happy 150th to Colt's "Peacemaker" .45, Springfield Armory's 1873 .45-70 Trapdoor Rifle, and the 1873 Winchester .44-40. The best way to appreciate these old guns is to return them to the Superstition Wilderness in Arizona where so many western legends originated.
Santee from The Arizona Ghostriders invited me along for an afternoon of shooting but this was no normal trip. Three iconic firearms from America's frontier past turn 150 years old in 2023 and he wanted to document this for an upcoming video. This is an important milestone we wouldn't miss for the world. The legendary 1873 Colt's Single Action Army Revolver, Springfield Rifle and Winchester Rifle all had a birthday to celebrate, and we did it in the best possible way in the wildest part of the Old West.
-Dave
Santee from The Arizona Ghostriders invited me along for an afternoon of shooting but this was no normal trip. Three iconic firearms from America's frontier past turn 150 years old in 2023 and he wanted to document this for an upcoming video. This is an important milestone we wouldn't miss for the world. The legendary 1873 Colt's Single Action Army Revolver, Springfield Rifle and Winchester Rifle all had a birthday to celebrate, and we did it in the best possible way in the wildest part of the Old West.
(See the video here)
(Here's the full article)
https://www.frontieramericanillustratednews.com/post/winchester-springfield-colt-150th-anniversary-for-three-iconic-american-guns-1873-2023-Dave
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Zoot Shooters / Re: Slang from the 20s
« Last post by Reverend P. Babcock Chase on December 03, 2023, 10:40:48 PM »Howdy Zootists (first comment),
Does anyone remember "cheese it, its a rosier with a dropsy on the snide"?
Scram, there's a cop with a hidden gun.(i think I remember).
Rev. Chase
Does anyone remember "cheese it, its a rosier with a dropsy on the snide"?
Scram, there's a cop with a hidden gun.(i think I remember).
Rev. Chase
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Tall Tales / Re: Who needs an Elf on the shelf,Cawfee,Tea and a Chocolate Lab watching us for Dec
« Last post by Major 2 on December 03, 2023, 05:29:21 PM »Prof., I looked up the Bowmar Rib you mentioned, and it sure looks like the mount hole pattern.
So, I'm assuming that what was mounted on there. But it is gone and just the holes remain.
However, what the guy is asking, you could get two Tisas GI's.
So, I'm assuming that what was mounted on there. But it is gone and just the holes remain.
However, what the guy is asking, you could get two Tisas GI's.
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Tall Tales / Re: Who needs an Elf on the shelf,Cawfee,Tea and a Chocolate Lab watching us for Dec
« Last post by Professor Marvel on December 03, 2023, 04:24:54 PM »We are just dug out of our first real blizzard of the season. Lasted 3 days and we are hoping it is the start of a good SouthWest El Nino,
Which might break our draught and replenish the wells!
Major the essex frankengun sound like my 2nd Govt Model… I bought an essex frame “silver cup” cheap and turned it into a bullseye pistol with serious aftermarket parts, slide / frame fitting, barrel bushing tightening, trigger tuning and an awesome Bowmar Rib! It shot REALLY well, surprised a buncha guys.
Sold it to a friend who needed it more than me , and it financed 2 more project 45’s.
Yhs
Prof mumbles
Which might break our draught and replenish the wells!
Major the essex frankengun sound like my 2nd Govt Model… I bought an essex frame “silver cup” cheap and turned it into a bullseye pistol with serious aftermarket parts, slide / frame fitting, barrel bushing tightening, trigger tuning and an awesome Bowmar Rib! It shot REALLY well, surprised a buncha guys.
Sold it to a friend who needed it more than me , and it financed 2 more project 45’s.
Yhs
Prof mumbles
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STORM / Uberti 1860 .45ACP conversion by Goons Gun Works
« Last post by CraigC on December 03, 2023, 03:43:03 PM »Just a sneak peak at this little gem. Goon and I have been talking about doing one of these since he first started testing the Kirst .45ACP conversion. I ended up sending him a Uberti 1860 and yesterday it came home. Did a little bit of shooting this afternoon using factory .45ACP hardball. The action is slick and operates like butter on glass. This is just a quick & dirty report. A full review is coming and I've threatened to do another video.
Started life as a full flute Uberti 1860 from MidwayUSA.
Now it's had the Kirst converter installed with ejector, a full tune-up with action job, trigger stop, arbor length correction and coil spring conversion. The shoulder stock screws were reduced to buttons and all screws along with the wedge were redone in fire blue.
While he had the rest of the gun, I stripped and refinished the walnut grip with Fiebing's walnut stain and tung oil.
Started life as a full flute Uberti 1860 from MidwayUSA.
Now it's had the Kirst converter installed with ejector, a full tune-up with action job, trigger stop, arbor length correction and coil spring conversion. The shoulder stock screws were reduced to buttons and all screws along with the wedge were redone in fire blue.
While he had the rest of the gun, I stripped and refinished the walnut grip with Fiebing's walnut stain and tung oil.
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STORM / Re: Colt 1865 Pocket Navy Conversion .380 ACP
« Last post by Johnson Barr on December 03, 2023, 03:07:09 PM » The .380 ACP cartridge is not 'semi-rimmed', you might be thinking of the .32 ACP which is semi-rimmed.
I shoot one of these as a main match pistol at NCOWS matches. NCOWS allows 5-shooters if and when the hammer is down between cartridge rims. That being said, NCOWS does not allow .380 ACP cartridges. My 'work-around' was to use .38 Short Colt cases run through a .380 ACP sizer and loaded with APP powder and a .356 RNL cast bullet. This trick requires turning the short Colt case rim diameter down just a tad so that it will clear the 'extended' cylinder ratchet. It still has a pronounced rim and proper head stamp.
Thinking back on the original SASS discussion; the bigger problem had to do with that crazy rule about 'smoke' volume. Not so much an issue with NCOWS. A case full of blackpowder is a case full of blackpowder.
I shoot one of these as a main match pistol at NCOWS matches. NCOWS allows 5-shooters if and when the hammer is down between cartridge rims. That being said, NCOWS does not allow .380 ACP cartridges. My 'work-around' was to use .38 Short Colt cases run through a .380 ACP sizer and loaded with APP powder and a .356 RNL cast bullet. This trick requires turning the short Colt case rim diameter down just a tad so that it will clear the 'extended' cylinder ratchet. It still has a pronounced rim and proper head stamp.
Thinking back on the original SASS discussion; the bigger problem had to do with that crazy rule about 'smoke' volume. Not so much an issue with NCOWS. A case full of blackpowder is a case full of blackpowder.
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STORM / Re: Colt 1865 Pocket Navy Conversion .380 ACP
« Last post by Abilene on December 03, 2023, 12:50:30 PM »There was a discussion on this on the SASS Wire a few years back. I think it was determined to be not SASS legal. I don't recall if it was because of the 380acp chambering not being a commonly available pistol caliber, unlike the 9mm, 45acp, and some other conversions that are legal. Or it may have been because there is no provision for lowering the hammer between chambers, which would make it a 4-shooter (although that might be legal if you loaded the 5th on the clock - I don't recall).
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