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 A lot of the old guys I grew up around in ranch country had saddle ring 94 winchester carbines. They said that the great thing about it was you could just hang the rifle from the saddle horn and not worry about loosing it out of a scabbard, and it served as a safety to keep the rifle from sliding out of the scabbard
 From my personal experience I find little difference between carrying a 20 inch or 24 inch lever rifle such as the 95 and 94 winchesters or any of the Marlins and Savage.
So I would say it just mostly depends on your preference after the horse is tied or hobbled.
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Shotguns / Re: Are '87's having a moment?
« Last post by Cap'n Redneck on Today at 06:48:10 AM »
One more Arizonan:
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Shotguns / Re: Are '87's having a moment?
« Last post by Cap'n Redneck on Today at 06:45:26 AM »
1887's were certainly having their moment in the Arizona territory back in the days of yore...
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The Barracks / Re: Raffle
« Last post by Major 2 on Yesterday at 11:49:50 PM »
Who was the lucky winner ?
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Shotguns / Re: Are '87's having a moment?
« Last post by Abilene on Yesterday at 11:29:03 PM »
SASS default is to load no more than 2, but many clubs including most around here,  state "87's and 97's may be stoked on the clock" in the stage instructions.
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Shotguns / Re: Are '87's having a moment?
« Last post by Reverend P. Babcock Chase on Yesterday at 10:38:10 PM »
Howdy Again Fellers,

Regarding a full mag on an '87 (or '97) vs SXS, I shoot both I do have a '97 for Wild Bunch only). I don't know whether I shoot one quicker although I believe that, due to the occasional '87 train wreck, I'm better off with the SXS. Oh yeah, to the point, I don't see why guys who's shotguns have magazine shouldn't be allowed to use a full mag if they want, as long as they start the stage with and open and empty gun.

Rev. Chase

ps. I'm not sure but I think that is allowed.
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Shotguns / Re: Are '87's having a moment?
« Last post by Macon Due on Yesterday at 05:49:12 PM »
RRio
That sounds great! I never understood not allowing magazine shotguns to be fully loaded. If the dbl. barrel guys feel handicapped by that they can always switch to one themselves.
Macon Due 29445
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Shotguns / Re: Are '87's having a moment?
« Last post by RRio on Yesterday at 03:42:21 PM »
:)  Reverend  ;)

I must agree we are on basically the same page.  Almost.  The "Go Fast" '87 guys and gals, whom have invested in the appropriate action work and the fabled "Drop Two" mod are able to demonstrate some real speed.  Doesn't change the fact, an '87 just ain't a Hammer Double.  SO:

I am a firm believer, it matters NOT how well or fast you shoot, so long as you look REALLY REALLY good doing it.  It's a GAME and STYLE matters you betcha!!

Where I shoot, we can load 87's to the max the way they were supposed to be shot. The same with 97's. No penalty for not shooting a SxS.
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Go a bit further back and guerillas, I do not really remember reading much about carbines with them.  I read shotguns, then pistols, lots and lots of pistols.   
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The Army went to a scabbard for a couple of reasons.  The old carbine sling and socket did absolutely nothing to protect the piece, and it also pretty much ensured the carbine stock would be broken and the trooper injured if he was thrown while wearing it.  Personally, me being on a horse, especially if I tried to fire a firearm while there, would be extremely bad for both me and the horse!
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