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LEST WE FORGET
« on: November 11, 2008, 10:01:36 AM »
It is the 90th anniversary of Armistice Day 11:00am 11 Nov 18

Time again to remember all fallen soldiers.
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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 10:27:07 AM »


         Thanks to all you VETS out there, we wouldn't have the great life we do without you....


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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 10:48:08 AM »
Sir Charles

Here in the East , we just returned from our local Remembrance Day Service.
It is a time for remembrance , sadness and joy.
To remember all who have fallen for the values we hold dear .
Sadness for the families who have lost loved ones.
Joy for the Freedom and Life they gave to us all.

Bless them and may God hold them and all who serve close to His Heart.

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 11:19:01 AM »
On Sunday the British and Australian contingents at the base I'm temporarily at held a Remembrance Day church service.  There were no Canadians present, but one of the Brits represented them in the ceremonies, which were very simple but moving.  Only about 6 Yanks attended. 

Today the Air Force held a Veteran's Day retreat ceremony.  I thought it appropriate to do so, but it paled in comparison to what the Commonwealth forces put on the other day. 

However, I acquired a poppy and have worn it proudly the last week I've been here.

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 01:13:01 PM »
Words can't express the feelings I have on this Day of Rememberance.

All sacrificed some; some sacrificed all.
We honor all who answered the call
Gone but not forgotten, heroes one and all.

I thought you all might enjoy this video:

http://www.terry-kelly.com/pittance/pittance_en_video.htm
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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 01:32:35 PM »


       You know it really burns me, I put my flag out this morning, and I looked around the neighborhood, and my house is the only house flying the FLAG, even my neighbor that just got back from duty, isn't flying a flag, we have way to meany people that take things for granted, I hope they all wake up soon, of course I live in California, where they think more about GAY MARRIAGE than any thing else, Man I have to get out of here.

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 06:13:16 PM »
Great Video . We Remember.
Dutchy
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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 06:59:48 PM »
Heart felt thanks for the sacrifice of all the veterans past and present and their families. Our country is richly blessed to have men and women like you.

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 12:42:09 PM »
Amen.

I can count on one hand the # of flags flown on my street and I live in a snooty suburb.  I'm embarrassed.  I work for a retailer that, like all too many businesses, uses the occasion as an excuse to have a special sales event.  For the second year, I asked HQ corp communications to broadcast an email giving thanks to all our veteran employees.  No response.  We've got 3 veterans in my department and I personally thanked them, like I did last year.

Well, those sacrifices were made so I could (among so many freedoms I enjoy) have the right and opportunty to get pissed and express my frustration, which I did again this morning at a staff meeting.

I do so little...

Thanks to all of you veterans.

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 10:36:12 PM »
Wore my ribbons yesterday and got a few thank always feels rewarding.
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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 04:53:56 PM »
For me, I am proud of our military and peacekeeping accomplishments.  (Ask the 1st Cav Div. who saved their butts at Kapyong.) It is also the case that Canadians, except me of course, prefer to keep a low profile.  That too, is typical of small creatures sharing the stable with the elephant.

Besides;  By keeping a low profile no one notices how much we can influence our neighbours.

Oh SH##!  Now I've let the cat out of the bag!

     

    Lest we forget!

     

     British newspaper article - re Canada

                           
             
    British news  paper salutes Canada . . . this is a good read.  It is funny how  it took someone in England to put it into words...    Sunday Telegraph  Article From today's UK wires: 
    Salute to a  brave and modest nation - Kevin Myers, 'The Sunday Telegraph' LONDON:


    Until the deaths of Canadian soldiers killed in Afghanistan , probably almost no one outside their home country had been aware that Canadian troops are deployed in the region.

    And as always, Canada will bury its dead, just as the rest of the world, as always will forget its sacrifice, just as it always forgets nearly everything Canada ever does.. It seems that Canada's historic mission is to come to the selfless aid both of its friends and of complete strangers, and then, once the crisis is over, to be well and truly ignored.

    Canada is the perpetual wallflower that stands on the edge of the hall, waiting for someone to come and ask her for a dance. A fire breaks out, she risks life and limb to rescue her fellow dance-goers, and suffers serious injuries. But when the hall is repaired and the dancing resumes, there is Canada, the wallflower still, while those she once helped Glamorously cavort across the floor, blithely neglecting her yet again.

    That is the price Canada pays for sharing the North American continent with the United States, and for being a selfless friend of Britain in two global conflicts.
     
    For much of the 20th century, Canada was torn in two different directions: It seemed to be a part of the old world, yet had an address in the new one, and that divided identity ensured that it never fully got the gratitude it deserved.
     
    Yet it's purely voluntary contribution to the cause of freedom in two world wars was perhaps the greatest of any democracy. Almost 10% of Canada 's entire population of seven million people  served in the armed forces during the First World War, and nearly 60,000 died. The great Allied victories of 1918 were spearheaded by Canadian troops, perhaps the most capable soldiers in the entire British order of battle.
     
    Canada was repaid for its enormous sacrifice by downright neglect, it's unique contribution to victory being absorbed into the  popular Memory as somehow or other the work of the 'British.'

    The Second World  War provided a re-run. The Canadian navy began the war with a half dozen vessels, and ended up policing nearly half of the Atlantic against U-boat attack.  More than 120 Canadian warships participated in the Normandy landings, during which 15,000 Canadian soldiers went ashore on D-Day alone.

    Canada finished the war with the third-largest navy and the fourth largest air force in the world. The world thanked  Canada with the same sublime indifference as it had  the previous time.
     
    Canadian participation in the war was acknowledged in film only if it was necessary to give an American actor a part in a campaign in which  the United States had clearly not participated - a  touching scrupulousness which, of course, Hollywood has since abandoned, as it has any notion of a separate Canadian identity.

    So it is a general rule that actors and filmmakers arriving in Hollywood keep their nationality - unless, that is, they are Canadian. Thus Mary Pickford, Walter Huston, Donald Sutherland, Michael J. Fox, William Shatner, Norman Jewison, David Cronenberg, Alex Trebek, Art Linkletter and Dan Aykroyd have in the popular  perception become American, and Christopher Plummer, British.
     
    It is as if, in the very act of becoming famous, a Canadian ceases to  be Canadian, unless she is Margaret Atwood, who is as  unshakably Canadian as a moose, or Celine Dion, for whom Canada has proved quite unable to find any takers.

    Moreover, Canada is every bit as querulously alert to the achievements of its sons and daughters as the rest of the world is completely unaware of them. The Canadians proudly say  of themselves - and are unheard by anyone else - that  1% of the world's population has provided 10% of the  world's peacekeeping forces.

    Canadian soldiers in the past half century have been the greatest peacekeepers on Earth - in 39 missions on UN mandates, and six on  non-UN peacekeeping duties, from Vietnam to East Timor, from Sinai to Bosnia.

    Yet the only foreign engagement that has entered the popular non-Canadian imagination was the sorry affair in  Somalia, in which out-of-control paratroopers murdered two Somali infiltrators. Their regiment was then disbanded in disgrace - a uniquely Canadian act of self-abasement for which, naturally, the Canadians received no international credit.

    So who today in the United States knows about the stoic and selfless friendship its northern neighbour has given it in Afghanistan?
     
    Rather like Cyrano de Bergerac, Canada repeatedly does honourable things for honourable motives, but instead of being thanked for it, it remains something of a figure of fun.   It is the  Canadian way, for which Canadians should be proud, yet such honour comes at a high cost. This past year more  grieving Canadian families knew that cost all too tragically well.

    Lest we forget.

       
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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2008, 05:08:54 PM »
Sir Chas deM - I was not near any Canadians (I was in Iraq) during my deployments but I saw other commonwealth nations' participation in the effort . And no matter what front your nation's assistance was on, your partnership is appreciated in this and in the other other wars - when you guys were there for the duration.

It was nice to spend this Remembrance day at home this year (well, in D.C. as I am not in my home state at present). As you know, with yankees like me, being in one's face with good news often times is better than a low profile...it's what we south of the border seem to understand best).

My regards to you, all in Canada who have sacrificed, and to the other Commonwealth nations,

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2008, 06:40:59 PM »
Add to that list of wonderful Canadian talent that has blessed the world:
John Candy
Rick Moranis
Mike Myers
Avril Lavigne
Gordon Lightfoot

(there are countless more, but those are the ones that come immediately to mind. I'll bet we can all lengthen this list.)


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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2008, 09:03:56 AM »
Add to that list of wonderful Canadian talent that has blessed the world:
John Candy
Rick Moranis
Mike Myers
Avril Lavigne
Gordon Lightfoot

(there are countless more, but those are the ones that come immediately to mind. I'll bet we can all lengthen this list.)




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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2008, 10:51:56 PM »
The Great Canadian Conspiracy

http://raincoaster.com/2008/02/13/the-canadian-conspiracy/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0285470/

I love CANADIAN!  The beer, that is!

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 02:55:07 AM »
When I was a young Marine back at the tailend of the Vietnam conflict, we had a Canadian in my platoon.  I can't remember his name but recall that he was a good Marine.  He returned to Canada when his enlistment ended.

When I was in Iraq a few years ago, we had quite a few Brits and Aussies with us, but the only Canadians I saw where inside the Green Zone. 

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2008, 10:49:32 AM »
Sacrifice in the defense and name of Freedom is sacrifice, and needs to be remembered regardless of that person's country of origin.  For this, we are all eternally grateful.  Sadly, we lost a local (Colorado) resident to an IED yesterday!   :'(  God rest his soul!

To our Canadian friends and allies: Thanks for the talent you have provided U.S. and the world.

Godspeed to all those still in harm's way in the defense of Freedom everywhere!
Ride to the sound of the guns, but watch out for bushwhackers! Godspeed to all in harm's way in the defense of Freedom! God Bless America!

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Re: LEST WE FORGET
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 09:07:46 PM »
This thread has wandered a bit, and I take responsibility for part of that.  Death itself has no nationality, it is merely but absolutely final until we reach up yonder. 

I am saddened by all losses.  It is unfortunate that we haven't found a better way than violence and war to solve our petty squabbles.  Compared to death, all problems are petty.

There are reasons we go to war, self defence, enforcement of the rule of law, to punish those who kill indiscriminately to further their selfish aims, and many more.  Each has to be carefully weighed before we send our young men & women into harms way.

I've gotten a bit philosophical here, but we can't ignore the human costs of our actions.

LEST WE FORGET!

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Those who are no longer ignorant of History may relive it,
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With apologies to George Santayana & W. S. Churchill

"As Mark Twain once put it, “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”

 

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