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Colt Firearms / Re: Looking for a 7 1/2" .44 Special New Frontier Barrel
« Last post by russ1943 on June 30, 2022, 05:13:18 AM »

Thanks for the info on the gunsmith.
USFA CSS / Re: A terrific looking USFA.
« Last post by russ1943 on June 30, 2022, 04:56:43 AM »
:)  Well Hi DaveT  ;)

Ok, let me see.  Way back in the beginning, USPFA began existence, using imported Uberti Major parts and assemblies, a well as functional internals, final finished and assembled here.  Very Fine finishing indeed.  Really fine guns.

Then, USFA sourced their own machine tools and CNC and began making their parts "in house."  It didn't happen over night, but it did in fact happen.  ALL USA parts is a FACT.  But, here is the rub:

The CNC and Machine tools were set-up and programed to produce parts of the exact same dimensions as the previously imported Uberti Parts.  So, if you will, USFA became a CLONE of Uberti.  Very well made CLONE of Uberti.  Hence, my descriptive of "Gussied-Up Uberti."  Duplicated to the point I use to mix and match Uberti parts as "drop in" and "bolt on."

Now, let us add to the story.  You wanna guess where the USFA machine tools went??  Complete with imbedded CNC programming??

I see where you are coming from, but my 2 USA made guns, the Uberti cylinder from Navy Arms Cattlemen does not fit into the frame.  The frame is too small.   Yet a Colt 2nd generation fits into them, perfectly.  The timing is perfect.  What gives?  I do not know. Maybe someone can answer. 
USFA CSS / Re: USFA guns made from Italian parts bringing top prices.
« Last post by russ1943 on June 30, 2022, 04:41:23 AM »
I have been watching the price of Uberti Parts guns go up in value over the last year.  They are going for as much as the USA made guns went for last year.  I have spreadsheet on the prices.  I hope the USA made ones have gone up just as much, since I got two.  If my computer with the info wasn't in the shop getting a new screen, I would post the weighted average price increases. 

I think it just demand.  Colt is a long waiting period, Cimarron only has Uberti that are not 4 clicks, and Pietta are low or out of stock.  What is left, in a good SAA, USFA part guns. Then you got Uncle Joe screwing with guns.

I think I paid NIB around $1,100.00 for mine 44-40, 7.5". The most popular is 4.75".

I have a paper note in the gun box that 5.5" 44-40 at the Rock Island Auction went for $2950.00 +18.5% buyer premium S/N 22598 in 2020.

That so when I roll the seven, my nephew doesn't give them a away for nothing.
CAS City Classifieds / Re: Scully JW leather vest 2X
« Last post by DeaconKC on June 29, 2022, 11:24:29 PM »
CAS City Classifieds / Re: WTT .45 Opentop for .38 Octagon barrel
« Last post by DeaconKC on June 29, 2022, 11:24:00 PM »
The Barracks / Re: The 1884 Fatigue Uniform: Easy, Comfortable, inexpensive.
« Last post by 1961MJS on June 29, 2022, 10:51:04 PM »
C&C SUTLER's trousers don't have the correct back pocket. Not sure about Coon Creek's as they don't show a backside view.

Jack is correct, I DO have three pair of them.  They are great but SHOULD have the patch pocket.
Upcoming Musters / Re: 2022 GAF Grand Muster
« Last post by 1961MJS on June 29, 2022, 10:48:22 PM »
Hi Cathy

The food was great, and made things go a lot better.  It would be hard for us to cook decently and do Range Officer stuff.  Thanks again.

The Barracks / Re: Pick up wrong Krag
« Last post by 1961MJS on June 29, 2022, 10:39:24 PM »
Mine has a new barrel, never blued it.  I got home with it.
Cas City Historical Society / Re: Frontier plinking
« Last post by LongWalker on June 29, 2022, 09:47:36 PM »
From the stuff I've read, and the old folks I talked with when they were still around, much of the "plinking" involved either some friendly (or not-so-friendly) wagering, or pest control (which also involved some wagers at times).  Bottles, cans, cards, blocks of wood, bottlecaps (when they came along), cobs of corn, and even eggs.

As for pest control, the typical targets (at least on the plains) included jackrabbits, coyotes, foxes, crows, etc.  Starlings weren't as much of a problem then as they weren't introduced to the US until sometime in the 1870s, but over time they have become a serious pest (and frequent target). 


An informal match that involved members of the Army and North's Pawnee Scouts had them shooting at cards stuck in a cleft stick (maybe 25 yards--one guy said his grandfather told him he could see the suits), and shooting jackrabbits.  The Pawnee were running the jackrabbits on horseback and using a pistol, the soldiers shot using a rifle (not a musket) that someone had.  I'm still trying to find documentation of this event, all I have are old stories.  It probably happened sometime around 1864.

One of my great-greats was a blacksmith, market gunner, and (apparently) a betting man.  I heard stories from a number of old-timers about various informal competitions, often involving shots at pests or game.  He had a 22LR volley-gun that figured in a number of his winning shots. 

1880s, Nebraska Sandhills.  Cowboys running coyotes from horseback, shooting pistols.  From the sounds of it, the winner got the most coyotes (ties broken by the fewest shots).  There were similar informal competitions on wagon trips to/from town, shooting birds with shotguns/coyotes or jackrabbits with pistols or rifles. 

1890s, Nebraska Sandhills again.  Informal match one evening during an open-range roundup shooting sunflowers using "Winchesters".  Reading between the lines on this one, it sounds like a few hands from one of the ranches were thinking they could bluff a hand from one of the smaller (family) ranches.  At the end, they understood him to be a fine shot--and their rifles were empty. 

New Year's Day 1903, somewhere probably near Ogallala Nebraska.  A bunch of Spanish-American War vets were plinking at cobs of corn standing in the snow (when you hit them square, they explode--and the chickens do cleanup).  Range was probably 20-30 yards (I don't have documentation on this one, just a photo I saw in a family accumulation). 

One ranch I worked on when I was a kid had a layer of broken glass in front of a dirt bank.  The glass layer was probably 20' long, and maybe 18" deep at the deepest. 
Tall Tales / Re: Coffee and Tea hotter than a June Bride
« Last post by The Trinity Kid on June 29, 2022, 09:38:33 PM »
Greetings all.

Currently 82 degrees at 0530 for my day off work. It’s not half bad, if you discount the exhaust from the burn pits and incinerator settling over the base ::)

The last time I got called for jury duty was 2019. It was for a trial in Trinity County, CA, when I was a resident of Yellowstone county, MT. It was also a case where I’d had to provide a statement to the DA already as a member of the arresting party. I knew the guy on the other end of the phone when I called, and we both had a good laugh over the circumstance. I haven’t been called for jury duty since, in any county.  (In case you’re wondering, the trial was for a guy who killed his buddy while out on a hiking trip for taking the last tab of lsd. Other substances were also involved).

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