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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2023, 09:50:02 AM »
Lots of good info in here guys, as usual. Thanks.
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2023, 07:01:05 PM »
Two costly alternatives:
# have a C&B 1860 Army replica converted to a Richards by a conversion artist - ? 1500+,
# have an oversized Uberti R2 converted to a Richards by a conversion artist - ? 300 to 500.
Pics of a friend's former Uberti R2 converted to R1
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Is there anyone sill making type two into a type 1?

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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2023, 10:50:56 PM »

Ah, no one currently that I am aware of.  Might still be one guy in Europe still doing it.  Dunno.

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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2023, 01:30:44 AM »
Yes, the smith in Austria, Karl Nedbal, is still doing the R2 - R1 "transitions".
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2023, 10:24:10 AM »
Yes, the smith in Austria, Karl Nedbal, is still doing the R2 - R1 "transitions".
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LJW---Were the prices you quoted in 2020 from this guy? Wonder what his current price is? Were your quotes in US dollars? Imagine the price of shipping one over and back or having one purchased in Austria and shipped to the US wouldn't be cheap.
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2023, 04:34:29 PM »
LJW---Were the prices you quoted in 2020 from this guy? Wonder what his current price is? Were your quotes in US dollars? Imagine the price of shipping one over and back or having one purchased in Austria and shipped to the US wouldn't be cheap.

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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2023, 05:38:50 PM »
Hear ya there Professor, was thinking when I typed that post the import/export nightmare.
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2023, 02:00:33 AM »
Do you want me to check back for you with Nedbal?
Where to obtain the R2, prices of the R1-conversion ring, installation and fitting?
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2023, 04:16:35 PM »
Would just the conversion ring be available for purchase and there be the big problem of importing to the US?

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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2023, 01:43:58 AM »
"Historical replacement parts" were imported into the USA w/o problems.
However, you should be able to remove the R2 conversion ring from the Ubert and fit the R1 ring ... or have a smith who would do that for you.
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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2023, 05:46:27 PM »
"Historical replacement parts" were imported into the USA w/o problems.
However, you should be able to remove the R2 conversion ring from the Ubert and fit the R1 ring ... or have a smith who would do that for you.
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You would then need to modify the hammer as well, or maybe a percussion hammer be a drop in?

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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2023, 07:11:42 PM »
If any become available I would be interested in buying. Thanks for all the info. Right now I am thinking about buying a Type 2 in 38 special to build as close as cn be a 61 Navy conversion. But would much rather have a Type 1 but that could be a while.

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Re: 1860 Richards Transition Question
« Reply #32 on: December 11, 2023, 08:27:09 AM »

 :) Abilene  ;)

Correctamundo!!  Hammer has to be modified as well.  richards Firing Pin is of course, frame mounted in the Breach Ring.

 

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