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Title: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: Highlander999 on February 03, 2015, 11:31:30 AM

I bought this at a gun shop in St. Anne, MO, and at the time thought it was probably an original.  I've never seen reproductions with the Screw Back and Pins on the ends/drags of the sabers.  Any thoughts on originality and time frame of issue?

(http://images42.fotki.com/v693/photos/8/848245/6026081/CavalryHatDeviceFront-vi.jpg)

(http://images14.fotki.com/v146/photos/8/848245/6026081/CavalryHatDeviceBack-vi.jpg)

Thanks,

Title: Re: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: Pitspitr on February 03, 2015, 12:28:03 PM

Your pictures aren't showing up
NM it's probably a filtering issue

Title: Re: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: Delmonico on February 03, 2015, 12:59:05 PM

They are for me, we'll see if this way works better. 

Title: Re: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: St. George on February 03, 2015, 01:23:58 PM

Not period.

1920s Campaign Hat device.

There are a 'lot' of faked 7th Cavalry items out there - far more than you can conceive of.

A true device from the time frame will be much larger, hollow-backed, and will feature a wire back, encased in solder - sometimes with a pin, sometimes with wire loops for sewing,

The numerals and letters will be separate - not attached - that came later, and when they were attached, it was often by small loops or onto a small brass bar, and as mentioned - that came later - closer to the end of the Indian Wars.

Being of rather flimsy construction, they were often filled in with soft solder for strengthening by the Company Artificer or Blacksmith.

Same's true for Infantry.

The anti-rotation pins and screwbacks came about around the time of the Spanish-American War - for use on the Bell Crowns, and the Campaign Hats of the time - those devices were gilt-finished, as is the one pictured.

Vaya,

Scouts Out!

Title: Re: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: Pitspitr on February 03, 2015, 01:33:54 PM

Thanks St. G
That's what I was guessing, but again it was just a guess.

Title: Re: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: Major 2 on February 03, 2015, 01:59:20 PM

Highlander sent the photo via email...and I responded  1920's

St. G is correct

Title: Re: 7th Cavalry A Company Hat/Lapel Device
Post by: Highlander999 on February 03, 2015, 02:26:25 PM

Thanks all.  Well, not Indian Wars, but still, not 1996 either ;)

Thanks to all...