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Title: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 31, 2008, 04:11:48 PM
I have been collecting these for quite some time. Over the last couple of years I have shared these with many of our members. Some of these labels are cropped and cleaned up already, most are not. I use New Print Shop to do this work but if a certain label interests you and you do not have the resources feel free to contact me and I'll help! ;)

Many of these cartridge box labels apply to Remington revolvers past and present (and there are "combustible" box labels here too) and many of them don't. But almost all of us have interest in other firearms ;D

I will add content about box construction, label material and so on as time goes by.

Also if any of you photoshop and improve these labels, please send me a file copy so I can add them to the photobucket pages!

Here is the link:

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c91/buckoff123/labels/

Most of them are in order of cartridge size (by number). Go to the bottom and click VIEW ALL to see them in their entirety.

Click and enjoy!

Yer Pard,
Hoof Hearted
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Rusty Spurr on October 31, 2008, 05:03:09 PM
That is really cool!!!
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Rusty Spurr on October 31, 2008, 06:38:12 PM
I was off work a few months ago recuperating from carpal tunnel surgery.  Had a lot of time on my hands.  Made this box for my 32 S&W Longs.  Modeled it after one of the same labels on your Photobucket album.  (With a few changes).  Thought you would get a kick out of it. (http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88/paflintlock/DSCF0001.jpg)
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88/paflintlock/DSCF0002.jpg)
(http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp88/paflintlock/DSCF0003.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Hoof Hearted on October 31, 2008, 07:02:15 PM
Here is a link to a previous thread regarding Cartridge boxes:

https://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?topic=18403.0

Dixie has some boxes available here:

https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/category/category_id/337/category_chain/578,342,337/name/Cartridge+Display+Boxes/
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Abilene on October 31, 2008, 07:31:22 PM
Wow, that is an awesome collection you have there, and many thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Oldelm on October 31, 2008, 10:25:21 PM
Howdy Hoof..... great idea to bring this subject back to life.  Cartridge boxes are one of my favorite things with this sport.
Thanks for posting your album.

Rusty Spurr,...that's a mighty fine creation of a .32 cartridge box you made. I like your creativity. By the way, that Woodchuck Lard lube hits mighty close to home with me. I'll bet it's slicker than ewe-lard,...hehe
Thanks for posting your photos.  :)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Wolfgang on November 01, 2008, 12:35:12 AM
Nice collection.  Thanks for posting . . . .  :)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Rusty Spurr on November 01, 2008, 08:42:42 AM


Rusty Spurr,...that's a mighty fine creation of a .32 cartridge box you made. I like your creativity. By the way, that Woodchuck Lard lube hits mighty close to home with me. I'll bet it's slicker than ewe-lard,...hehe
Thanks for posting your photos.  :)
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Thanks Oldelm
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Marshal Will Wingam on November 01, 2008, 09:34:51 AM
Outstanding collection, pard. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 01, 2008, 09:44:49 AM
Thanks

All of ya'all  :D

My intention here is to provide a source for making cartridge boxes. So let's get some replies up about:

Construction
Materials
Places to buy
Etceteras

Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Oldelm on November 01, 2008, 04:26:21 PM
River City John,.......thanks for posting those nice labels. I like that Winchester .45 Cal picture box.
Good idea about making the 2-piece boxes with the string opener. Is that how they originally packaged them, with the string opener? Clever idea. I somehow thought that the purchaser just slit the seam with a sharp knife . 
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Wolfgang on November 01, 2008, 06:26:31 PM
I made up some custom 12 ga boxes a couple years ago.  Just checked the gun cabinet here in my "rollin' bunkhouse" and don't have any of 'em with me.  Will get down home soon and will be able to post some pictures.   Was a fun project.  Gave a box full of brass shell loads to a freind for Xmas that year and he was more thrilled with the box than the shells . . .  ;D
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Curley Cole on November 01, 2008, 08:24:33 PM
(http://sdough.smugmug.com/photos/353086724_wkKa5-M.jpg)

(http://sdough.smugmug.com/photos/367145477_FaiHb-M.jpg)

(http://sdough.smugmug.com/photos/353086719_rUhHM-M.jpg)

Here are some "just for fun" ammo boxes I made for me and some friends. I plan to do more when I get retired and have more free time. I have a bunch of ideas...

curley
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 01, 2008, 09:07:45 PM
Now we're getting the ball rollin' boys!

River City

I hope you don't mind, but I copied yer labels into the photobucket so they'll be available for posterity ;)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: River City John on November 02, 2008, 01:10:38 AM
Now we're getting the ball rollin' boys!

River City

I hope you don't mind, but I copied yer labels into the photobucket so they'll be available for posterity ;)
;D ;D And I hope you don't mind, I copied several of your full-frontal images of labels into my log of cartridge labels for future use.
Check out the three threads in the NCOWS Forum on 19th Century labels for sharing. The entire article has many contributions and tips for labeling in general, plus cartridge labels in particular. Be aware that the three threads are scheduled for deletion at the end of this month as they have been on that forum for over a year, so don't dawdle!

Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Curley Cole on November 02, 2008, 05:11:27 PM
River

It is too bad that threads like yours can't be maintained for a longer period, they are WAY too useful to be lost...

just my thoughts..

thanks for your posts

curley
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 03, 2008, 06:38:26 PM
Hoof Hearted, any chance you can give dates of manufacture on the 44WCF and 44-40 boxes?
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 03, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
Without going through a lengthy process ::)
I can tell you "probably after 1873" ;)

Let's see if anyone else has some info...................
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 03, 2008, 08:00:00 PM
Without going through a lengthy process ::)
I can tell you "probably after 1873" ;)

Let's see if anyone else has some info...................

lol, I'd say at least between 1873 and 1945
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 06, 2008, 05:07:59 PM
Was reading somewhere that it was thought that the 44-40 or rather the 44 WCF boxes where split boxes during the 1870s and 1880s.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: River City John on November 06, 2008, 07:05:49 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 07, 2008, 07:35:22 PM
AFTER 1880 and BEFORE 1884
note no headstamp. Cartridge on far right is a 38.44. The case next to it is a 44-40 with a balloon primer pocket. The other two are from the box itself.

link is here: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.oldammo.com/Win4440.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.oldammo.com/february04.htm&h=513&w=1399&sz=92&hl=en&start=5&um=1&usg=__cVCsvLJ2dYJZo1rKSiIxujq64Z0=&tbnid=9YRqTmCITCyybM:&tbnh=55&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3D44-40%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DEXx%26sa%3DN



(http://www.oldammo.com/Win4440.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 07, 2008, 07:44:50 PM
(http://www.bacyksportingcollectibles.com/trade1.jpg)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bacyksportingcollectibles.com/smokeless.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.bacyksportingcollectibles.com/trade.html&h=495&w=497&sz=178&hl=en&start=58&um=1&usg=__lIDJcwdu__g-M5--EmAWF7VIUng=&tbnid=V8m5dEHeXNHysM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3D44-40%26start%3D40%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 07, 2008, 09:27:01 PM
Jack

Glad to see that this has piqued yer interest!


I am not necessarily "up to speed" on dating these labels but I bet the readers over here at the Historical Society would help ya'll out: http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php/topic,23026.0.html

By the way, THANKS for the link! I have added many of those labels to the photobucket. ;D
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: w44wcf on November 09, 2008, 07:55:31 PM
Hoof Hearted,
Great album! Thank you for sharing.  Here is a terrific book of labels:

(http://www.rtgammo.com/images/reduced%20logo1.jpg)

The label in my signature is copied from this book. According to the information, it was the first M'73 Winchester cartridge box. Note that the 44/100 designation is a carry over from the Henry era.  The .44 W.C.F. designation appeared on cartridge boxes a few years later.

w44wcf
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Wolfgang on November 09, 2008, 10:48:59 PM
A great thread. Lots of wonderful old ( and new ) cartridge boxes.  :)

I got over to my "Workshop"  today.  www.drburkholter.com/cf16.html (http://www.drburkholter.com/cf16.html) if'n ya aint seen it.

 . . . and dug ot a cartridge box to photograph.  

See it at :  www.drburkholter.com/cf22.html (http://www.drburkholter.com/cf22.html)

Good shootin', . . . .  :)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 15, 2008, 12:55:04 PM
A great thread. Lots of wonderful old ( and new ) cartridge boxes.  :)

I got over to my "Workshop"  today.  www.drburkholter.com/cf16.html (http://www.drburkholter.com/cf16.html) if'n ya aint seen it.

 . . . and dug ot a cartridge box to photograph.  

See it at :  www.drburkholter.com/cf22.html (http://www.drburkholter.com/cf22.html)

Good shootin', . . . .  :)


That is one ugly shotgun. I would never in my life be seen with such an ugly firearm. Send it to me and I will properly dispose of it!!!


Hey Wolfgang...I'd like to pick up 5 brass shotgun shells and reload them with buckshot for my 87'. What ya suggest for a recipe?
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: GunClick Rick on November 25, 2008, 03:53:05 PM
I didn't see any  shotgun shell boxes..
It'll shoot slick if ya buy GunClick.
 Double Trouble Shotshells
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunclickrick/shotshells014.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunclickrick/shotshells005.jpg
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 26, 2008, 09:26:17 AM
I didn't see any  shotgun shell boxes..
It'll shoot slick if ya buy GunClick.
 Double Trouble Shotshells
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunclickrick/shotshells014.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y283/gunclickrick/shotshells005.jpg

Look closer at the very beginning of the photobucket. They're there, they just don't look like modern boxes ;)

Nice job on the labels..........yer factory fodder appears more defense oriented tho :o
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Bryan Austin on November 26, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
Hiya Rick!!!!
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: GunClick Rick on November 26, 2008, 11:58:10 AM
 Yo Savvy,what up dude...

 Heck i don't even know where that fodder came from,i ain't got a shotgun yet.Rowdy Yates and Gutshot Don sent me some papers awhile back and i got extra if anybody needs them..
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: GunClick Rick on November 26, 2008, 11:59:39 AM
 By the way,Curley Cole made the box,get yours before Christmas ;D
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Curley Cole on November 26, 2008, 08:35:51 PM
Howdy Ricky, what ya been up to? How are you feelin?

thanks for the plug

curley who is short 33 days
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Old Top on November 27, 2008, 11:13:14 PM
For those of us who know him Curly has always been "short"



Old Top
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels
Post by: Curley Cole on November 28, 2008, 07:27:04 PM
Yes Old Top, I know:

NO MORE DRINKS FOR THE DWARF.......!

curley
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Hoof Hearted on November 30, 2008, 10:23:22 AM
Hi Rick
Hi Curly
Hi Old Top

Check out the Photobucket again. I added about 30 more boxes! :o
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Bryan Austin on December 13, 2008, 03:06:06 PM
.44 Rimfire anyone?

(http://www.dawesandco.com/db_images/5s25UMC44henry_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Bryan Austin on December 31, 2008, 07:56:34 PM
www.corbon.com

Do they still sale the US Cavalry Ammunition? 12 rounds per box?
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Hoof Hearted on January 01, 2009, 11:00:42 AM
www.coran.com

OK Jack :D
What the SAM HILL is that link ???
Are you promoting terrorism or what ???

Hey, jou boiz, stepp avay from the slurrpee macchine ;D
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Bryan Austin on January 03, 2009, 03:01:31 PM
lol....edited
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Yankee Will on August 30, 2009, 08:09:36 PM
O.K. boys...for someone new to collecting these old ammo boxes...
where in the Sam Houston hell do you find them?  I'm sure I've seen some old
boxes at some gun shows, but probably not any as old as these! :o
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Tuolumne Lawman on July 20, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
My replica .44 Martin/Colt/Remington box:  Middle cartridge is a .45 Schofield with a RN 200 grain bullet.  Outside two are original .44 Colt/Martins.. I use it because I have both a Colt Richards type II and a thick plate 1858 gated conversion.

(https://i.imgur.com/IoP85F5.jpg)

If you just want a Remington label:

(https://i.imgur.com/c7EsUpk.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture album of Cartridge box labels (updated 11/30/08)
Post by: Bryan Austin on July 20, 2018, 05:06:12 PM
(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0907a5_b62acb5b1bdf41d78db16cc1db8d0115~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_840,h_630,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/0907a5_b62acb5b1bdf41d78db16cc1db8d0115~mv2.jpg)

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/0907a5_d44add2dd6884e71a27800dc178185a3~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_138,h_104,al_c,q_90,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01/0907a5_d44add2dd6884e71a27800dc178185a3~mv2.jpg)

https://www.44winchestercenterfirecartridges.com/44wcf-cartridge-boxs

https://www.44winchestercenterfirecartridges.com/replica-44wcf-cartridge-boxes?lightbox=dataItem-jhsfft3p