I have this USFA SAA I purchased about 12 years ago and I'm trying to find value information on it. Prices on GB seems to vary a lot. I was chatting with another collector friend of mine and he stated it looks like an earlier one that was made with some Uberti parts maybe? So that makes it a parts gun?  I only really know the information about them that I read in an article close to 20 years ago that spoke about their acquisition and what they were doing. I thought their history and what they offered were really cool, so when I found one, I had to have it.

That being said, here we are many years later and this has always been tucked at the back of my safe, so figured I'd look into moving it... but I need to know more about it.

From what info I do have... is it's serial # starts with a DFC prefix, so sold through Davidsons. I called Turnbull Restoration a few years ago when I was trying to research it and they verified it had "been through their shop" around May 0f 97' if I remember correctly. Not that they built it, but just what they said. I'm assuming they did the color case hardening? It's marked USPFA on top, is in 45LC, and has a second cylinder in 45ACP. I've put maybe 20 rounds though it in it's lifetime.

Any information or direction is much appreciated. I was referred here and been searching in this subforum, but maybe someone more versed in these can chime in. Thanks in advance for any help.

Regards - A

Pics: https://imgur.com/a/etIvf6f

This guy sells “printable  pdf patterns” for a number of rigs, and claims his man with no name pattern is accurate.
I have no clue, just manged to find it, and it seems to be the only vendor i can find.


www.londonjacksleather.com.


Prf mumbles

PLUS, his name is John, so ya can't go wrong!

Hay no joke that was a clean stage for me.

Same goes for me, Wooly Dan. The only one, I think.

It was a fun match with great people. There were shooters representing Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma. (May be more, but that's all I'm aware of.)

Mine was made by putting a Navy grip on a "1860 Type II" as Uberti calls it, in .38.   Their 1860 conversions in .38, both R-M and Type II, come with the Navy frame/cylinder.  Since the Type II '60 barrel is the same shape as a '61, it is easy to turn it into a '61 Type II with the Navy grip.

Abilene,
Okay, you might know this since you had the affiliation with Cimarron.  I tried to physically see some, but every time I was in Fredericksburg they never had the Type IIs in .38 for me to compare.

• Are the .38 spl Type IIs the same frame and cylinder (diameter) size as the .44 and .45 Uberti Type IIs?
• I know the '51 Richards-Mason conversions are "correctly sized".
• I want to put a '60 barrel on a correctly sized .38 frame already set up for cartridges and just open up the chambers to .44 Russian/Colt.   
• I would prefer to have the frame already having Army grips because I found it is almost impossible to get "replacement" Grips, Back straps and Trigger Guards in the Army grip size
• I actually want a Franken-Gun of sorts, however it would be more correct than the oversized Richards Type IIs I have now.  If I actually had my druthers I would take a '61 barrel and have it rebored and rifled for Ø.428 bullets and shoot internally lubed bullets.
• I don't like the way the Uberti Type IIs in .44 caliber sit in my hands, the hammer spur is off (too high) and something just seems off about them.  I can close my eyes and if you hand me a '60 grip first and the Type II grip first I can tell in an instant the difference.  I would love to have a pair as much for practice as for using them as my wet weather guns as I do now. 
• I have thought about getting two sets of revolvers, a pair of '60s and a pair of any flavor '51 cartridge conversion and swapping out the barrels and rechambering the .38 cylinder to .44, but by that time I might as well just get a conversion back plate and convert a pair of '60s.
• I was thinking pretty hard about it about 15 years ago until life sidetracked me... 

You're a bad man making me want pretty things...

~Mako

Been there...
it's always "phew" moment in hurricane season once they brush on by.