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Title: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on June 04, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
Howdy, have any of you had experience running TB through the Lee disc powder dispensers? I know you need to give it an extra beat or two with Dillons, but what about the Lees? Thanks
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Buffalo Creek Law Dog on June 04, 2019, 05:27:20 PM
I have been using Trail Boss through a Lee powder dispenser since 2011 and have had no problems what so ever.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on June 04, 2019, 06:20:43 PM
Thanks, Law Dog! You LEO?
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: pony express on June 04, 2019, 06:46:25 PM
I don't have a Lee measure. With my Lyman 55, I have to work the handle "smartly", tap once at the up stroke, and "double tap" the handle on the bottom stroke, to be sure it doesn't bridge in the measure.

You may just have to throw and weigh a few charges to find out what is most consistent.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Buffalo Creek Law Dog on June 04, 2019, 09:15:28 PM
Thanks, Law Dog! You LEO?
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Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on June 04, 2019, 11:26:38 PM
Retired Corrections here Law Dog, Back the Blue
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: RRio on June 05, 2019, 03:26:46 AM
I don't have a Lee measure. With my Lyman 55, I have to work the handle "smartly", tap once at the up stroke, and "double tap" the handle on the bottom stroke, to be sure it doesn't bridge in the measure.

You may just have to throw and weigh a few charges to find out what is most consistent.

+1    Same procedure, works fine for me. No variances.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Bunk Stagnerg on June 05, 2019, 11:29:39 AM
Before i saw the light and did forsake the fad stuff and start shooting the real true Gun]Powder I will freely admit I did use a lot of Trail Boss.
But, and there is always a but, it takes a learning curve to get it to meter properly. At least that was my experience using a Dillon 550B. It seems to go through the measure like slowly falling snow, which we do not have in this part of Texas, however that is what I have been told by people that survive in country where it does snow.
It does measure very exactly once you find the rhythm and is almost impossible to double charge and least in .45 Colt and .45 Cowboy Special cases.
It is a good powder, but you may wind up with lddy biddy grey cherrios all over the bench.
Yr' Obt' Svt'
Bunk
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on June 05, 2019, 12:44:14 PM
Thank you all very kindly! Hope it will not be too much of a headache and be worth the extra attention!
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Marshal Hangtree on June 06, 2019, 07:15:08 AM
My Lee Auto Drum meters Trail Boss very reliably and precisely.  The Auto Drum beets the Auto Disk hands down.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on June 06, 2019, 04:38:55 PM
Thanks, I wonder if the drum model would work in the system I now have. They seem awfully similar in set up.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Marshal Hangtree on June 07, 2019, 08:25:24 AM
The Auto Drum will work with any of the Lee Powder-Thru dies.  It will mount exactly the same as your Auto Disk.  The riser is highly recommended.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on June 07, 2019, 08:52:24 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Emmett Brown on July 07, 2019, 03:39:01 PM
I use the Lee Auto Disk with Trail Boss on their turret press and have had no problems, have loaded many thousands of rounds.  I do recommend careful weighing to select a disc, their guide is not necessarily accurate!
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Drydock on July 07, 2019, 05:27:39 PM
I have used TB thru a Lee Perfect with no problems.  HOWSUMEVER, I have experienced bridging many times in the Powder Thru die itself.  Constant checking of the case itself is called for,  with a run back up into the die and a tap with a wrench should levels be low.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Coffinmaker on July 07, 2019, 08:19:11 PM

Here We Go Again .... Marching Down The Avenue ....  I don't shoot Trail Boss.  WaBac (thank Professor and Sherman) when I dabbled in that Heathen Fad Smokeless stuff, I didn't like Trail Boss at all.  I don't even have any on hand (why would I), nor under hand.  I also don't load thru a Lee anything, except my Lee Classic for De-Prime/Prime All Brass 12Ga.  I do all my loading on a pair of Dillon 650s, set up for large and small primers (individually).  SO:

I would be apparent this missive is of no help nor information to the OP what so ever.  Therefore it may be, and should be ignored by all concerned.  I won't be at all affronted should one and all choose to ignore this verbose and useless commentary.  It is after all Sunday Evening and I'm bored.  No .... really ..... I'm bored.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: DeaconKC on July 07, 2019, 09:12:03 PM
My good sir Coffinmaker. Terribly sorry to hear of your boredom. So we are sending two 3 year olds over tou your house to entertain you.We gave them 2 energy drinks each and a puppy! Your friends DO want to take good care of you!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Drydock on July 07, 2019, 09:19:53 PM
We gave them each a paint ball gun as well.  Have fun!
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Coffinmaker on July 08, 2019, 09:54:21 AM

OH ......... But it is SOOOOOOOOOOO good to be LOVED (Furiously scrubbing walls)   ;D
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Pappy Myles on July 30, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
I have had some difficulty with trail boss and other "flake" powders leaking out "one flake at a time" during loading operations.  On ball powders, etc, it works great.   I've viewed some of the you tube videos on "fixes" and tightening up the seals, but I havnt done that.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Roscoe on October 21, 2019, 07:24:13 PM
I get better consistency by removing any baffle from the hopper. I don't do any jogging of the rig between cycles. I do the same for other powders that are sort of coarse, especially to get better results with Unique, 700-x, and Red Dot.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Delmonico on October 22, 2019, 02:17:08 AM
When I was in the market for a powder measure a friend who shot bench rest told me to buy a Redding BR-3 unless I was going to shoot serious  BR then buyt the Sinclair or the Jones.

I did and have never regretted spending about twice what a Hornaday or RCBS used.

I use the wide rifle bushing for everything and although I've not used Trail Boss has dropped all powders tried within a 1/10th of a grain with big stick powder and undetectable with finer powders.  Am sure it would do the same with Trail Boss.

Secret with it or any other measure I've used is to leave the lever down when doing any other work, when ready, pull the lever up with a fairly hard bang, count to 5 and charge the case the same way. 

The working the press or other movement won't pack s empty bushing like it will a full one and the slight bang helps keep constant pressure in the hopper.  I also never run it low enough to expose the baffle above. 

Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: Roscoe on October 22, 2019, 06:33:58 AM
I get better consistency by removing any baffle from the hopper. I don't do any jogging of the rig between cycles. I do the same for other powders that are sort of coarse, especially to get better results with Unique, 700-x, and Red Dot.
Trailboss seems especially susceptible to static electricity. I have assumed that is the source of escaped powder granules. I don't see where it could actually leak.
Title: Re: Trail Boss through Lee powder dispensers?
Post by: rbertalotto on November 04, 2019, 08:34:41 PM
Over 25,000 rounds of 45 Cowboy Special, 38-40 and 38 special......ALL on three Lee 1000 progressive presses with powder discs. Have NEVER had a squib load or misfire or over/under charge...

Can't say the same for my Dillon 650 which has done all of the above a few times....