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Abilene, I was using the Mav Dutchman bullet with lambfat/beeswax lube sized to .429". It carries plenty of lube. I checked my notes and I was using a reduced charge of 27 grains of 2F Goex black powder plus Cream of Wheat filler. The group was 6" at 25 yards fired from a sandbag rest. Not quite as bad as I remember but still pretty bad.

That was last week. I have just got back from the range today and I have much better news. First of all I got a Marbles tang peep sight. Secondly I tried a stouter load. Same Mav Dutchman bullet sized to .429" and lubed with lambfat/beeswax but now with 38 grains by volume of Schuetzen 3F and no filler. With this load I got a fantastic 3 shot group of 3/4" at 25 yards off a sandbag rest. I wanted to take it to 50 yards but it was raining off and on and becoming unpleasant.

I think the peep sight helped a lot but I did find it a bit awkward being located on the tang and so close to my eyes. There is more to report, I also shot a Pedersoli Lightning .44-40 today, eventually I will post some targets. For now suffice it to say I am quite pleased with the Miroku-Winchester as a black powder shooter. Now it is time to clean some guns.

I have found similar results with Uberti rifles. Had horrible accuracy using reduced loads with cream of wheat in  all guns. Mav44 using full house BP loads will drive tacks in the same guns.
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USFA CSS / Re: New member USFA Input please
« Last post by Gun K1n6 on May 15, 2022, 10:39:39 AM »
The Double Eagle is rare.
I’ve seen two for sale in the last 12 months and if I recall the prices were $3500 & $4000. One had CC/DB & nitre blue small parts and black hard rubber grips. The other had CC/DB and wood grips.
I’m interested if your selling.
Good luck.
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The Longbranch / Re: Lever rifles back in the day, rifle vs. carbine
« Last post by Cowtown on May 15, 2022, 09:54:32 AM »
My guess...

Folks "back then" with enough cash/gold/silver to buy a rifle were most likely limited to the availability on hand at their local store of which the selection was most likely very limited. In other words, they bought was was available regardless of barrel length.
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The Winchester Model 1876 / Re: I really need a 1876 mag tube?
« Last post by yahoody on May 15, 2022, 09:27:29 AM »
>just goes to show its never safe to assume stuff - I eyeballed these from ten feet and thought they all same

I did as well.  I have Browning '86 tubes.  But foolishly gave away my '76 short mag tube that I could have used.  Surprised me the '86 tube wouldn't work as I am using cut down 45-70 brass.

I'll keep looking for that curtain rod.

Is the "Home maker" store an actual chain store?  I tried Lowes, no go.  Home Depot is next.
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NCOWS / Re: Credit where credit is due...
« Last post by Hplummer on May 15, 2022, 08:36:08 AM »
Sounds like spoken from experience!😂
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 :)  Lou  ;)

It also appears the base of the case is oversize to the chamber (Bears witness marks).

Something is also not concentric between bolt face and chamber, I'm just no sure what.

PLUS ONE !!  and a HUGE PLUS ONE to DJ about running the Jamison Brass "as is."  something you have to remember . . . should you break something, there are NO replacement parts.  I'd personally suggest a return to re-formed 45-70 brass.

Play Safe
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NCOWS / Re: Credit where credit is due...
« Last post by Froogal on May 15, 2022, 08:16:29 AM »
Well, the first thing is to get on your hands AND knees, and then try to stand up with your hands still on the ground, and if THAT works, then SLOWLY move into an upright position, 'cause if you move too fast you'll just go over backwards.

The other option is to simply crawl on hands and knees over to the nearest tree or fence post.
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The Longbranch / Re: Random thoughts
« Last post by Froogal on May 15, 2022, 08:09:30 AM »
The plastic bag in the produce department. YEP!!
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Tall Tales / Re: May flowers bring coffee, tea and grub
« Last post by Silver Creek Slim on May 15, 2022, 07:47:25 AM »
Morning y'all.
Coffee and tea are ready.

'Tis 59 and mostly sunny. High of 74.

Slim
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The original 45-60  has a larger rim diameter than a .45-70 .  I suspect your '76 was set up to use reformed .45-70 cases (which are more plentiful and less expensive that .45-60), and the cartridge rim guide/locator is swaging that notch into your original-size cases.

Turning the rims should work.  You will probably want to avoid using the untrimmed oversize rims, because you're putting a lot of pressure on that part of your bolt by forcing it closed, and you risk breaking that guide piece off.

--DJ
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